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justin14054

01-25-2008 05:45:37




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Ok I am new to this type of plow.Grew up with old bottom plows.What is the benifit and uses of a chiesel plow???Bought some land and it is over grown.Plan to finish hogging in spring and planting all pasture(4 acres).Will the chiesel plow do the trick? for plowing up property enough to plant pasture.Thanks
Justin




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justin14054

01-26-2008 05:10:33




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 Re: chiesel plow in reply to justin14054, 01-25-2008 05:45:37  
Gentlemen,
Thanks for the info.Definetly answers my question.
Thanks again
Justin14054



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JMS/.MN

01-25-2008 19:50:31




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 Re: chiesel plow in reply to justin14054, 01-25-2008 05:45:37  
A chisel plow is a primary tillage tool, like a moldboard plow, but generally turns under only about 1/3 of surface residue. It turns about 1/3 of the soil, since it may typically have four inch wide shovels, spaced on 12 inch centers. Like any other primary tillage tool- it needs to be followed by a secondary tillage tool, before planting or seeding. Secondary tillage tool is generally a disc or field cultivator, cultipacker, etc- something that breaks up the ridges of earlier tillage. If your field is sod, a chisel plow can be used, but needs 2-3 passes before a secondary tool is used to smooth out the seedbed. Chisel plow generally is used deeper than a moldboard plow-(chisel 12-14 inches deep, plow 8-10 inches deep) that"s why paul says it is not used much in the spring in our country- pulls up too much cold soil- takes too long to warm up in the spring.

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paul

01-25-2008 17:00:26




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 Re: chiesel plow in reply to justin14054, 01-25-2008 05:45:37  
Here in my climate in MN, they don't recommend using a chisel plow in spring or real wet soil.

The chisel plow can be part of theoperation to rip up & make a seedbed, but it won't be the only one.

In some southern areas the terms are different - what we up here call a field cultivator is what those call a chisel plow, and they really don't have a heavy duty chisel plow or ripper like we have up here. So, not sure exactly what we are talking about.

It can be used, but will need disking as well I'm sure.

--->Paul

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Jr@mn

01-25-2008 10:27:57




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 Re: chiesel plow in reply to justin14054, 01-25-2008 05:45:37  
A chisel plow will work but you will get alot of rootballs from the grass laying on top so you will have to disk it several times toget a nice even seedbed.also if you have rocks a chisel plow will pull alot more on top than a moldboard plow.when we break grass or pasture ground we mow it as low as possible then moldboard plow it then dig it or disk it and this leaves it nice and even



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James Howell

01-25-2008 10:46:39




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 Re: chiesel plow in reply to Jr@mn, 01-25-2008 10:27:57  
Take a look at the link below.

We used a couple of the methods you suggested.

Part of the process was using a disk harrow to break the ground and and using a cultipacker to prepare the seed bed.



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James Howell

01-25-2008 10:24:53




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 Re: chiesel plow in reply to justin14054, 01-25-2008 05:45:37  
Since you are bush hogging your land now, the chisel plow should work for you.

Unless you have large stumps of 3� diameter or more and/or large rocks below the surface on your land, you should also be able to use a chisel plow.

Be very careful and not get too deep. If one or more of the �chisels� gets hung and stops �cutting�, one of several things can happen:

1. It will eventually flex because it is spring loaded and will make a loud snap, or
2. It will break and the spring will throw the broken piece 50 feet in front of the tractor, or
3. It will break and the tractor might surge forward, or
4. It will not break and �stall� the tractor, or
5. It will not break and the tractor will do a �wheely�.

From my personal experience, any of the above may require a change in undershorts.

Good luck with putting in your new pasture.

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johns48jdb

01-25-2008 09:32:16




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 Re: chiesel plow in reply to justin14054, 01-25-2008 05:45:37  
if the ground hasn't be broken for a while a chisel plow might be needed to loosen it up where a turning plow will take the ground. run the turning plow about two weeks after the chisel plow. this will give the trash time to die a little bit and then it might cover up easier. you might be happier with a disk turning plow rather than flat botoms.



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rrlund

01-25-2008 06:57:11




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 Re: chiesel plow in reply to justin14054, 01-25-2008 05:45:37  
I have to respectfully disagree with the post below,for the very reason that he states. Too much residue on top. You need to get everything turned under with a moldboard plow to reseed. If you chisel plow,you'll never get it level and you'll have poor seed to soil contact because of all the trash. You'll regret it for years to come. I strongly advise against it.



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Greg_Ky

01-25-2008 07:59:44




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 Re: chiesel plow in reply to rrlund, 01-25-2008 06:57:11  
I agree - sod turn it over mold board plow. My $.02



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Balatonm

01-25-2008 06:43:47




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 Re: chiesel plow in reply to justin14054, 01-25-2008 05:45:37  
Yes, I think that a chiesel plow would do the trick. unlike a bottom plow, a chiesel plow leaves more resido on the field insted of turning everything upside down. Most guys around here chisle in the fall once the crop is out and then use digger with mounted drags in the spring for seed prep.



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