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01-21-2008 16:06:01

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Many years ago I remember Dad plowing with a minimal amount of frost in the ground. He always said if you can get the bottoms to dig through the frost, you could plow all winter. Now he says that there is too much erosion to fall plow with the exception of one 15 acre field. Anyone seeing any loss of soil, or better yet, is there anyone still pulling the moldboard through the frost layers? I realize a chisel plow would break springs, but I always thought busting up the soil would get the frost layer down and air out the lower levels in the soil.

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tim[in]

01-22-2008 10:02:37

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Re: Winter farming in reply to [email protected], 01-21-2008 16:06:01

i was taught that the snow picked up nitrogen in the air coming down and if the ground was frozen enough to make it plow like it was dry then you could plow the snow in trapping the nitrogen. I did it on the other farm but it drained better so i could plow.

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MCL

01-22-2008 05:35:48

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Re: Winter farming in reply to [email protected], 01-21-2008 16:06:01

My Dad busted the hitch on a 588 White plow once when it was frozen too much. Pulling 5-18's with a 2-135.

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kyhayman

01-21-2008 21:27:47

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Re: Winter farming in reply to [email protected], 01-21-2008 16:06:01

Erosion is the bane of fall plowing on slopes. I can see by fence lines, and shrunken layers of topsoil where over the years no telling how many tons of top soil I lost in tobacco and corn fields. I still fall plow some alfafla ground, but its only plowed one year out of 5-8 and gets a rye cover crop if I can get it disced down decent. As to pulling the plow, frozen ground, hard ground, etc if you have the horsepower and ballast you can pull it though its not uncommon to break moldboards doing it.

I cant see any benefit to 'airing out' soils unless they are compacted or need to be plowed to dry out in the spring. If its compaction, its going to take more than a plow to fix that. I deep ripped a field for a guy who tried plowing some ground that wasnt quite dry enough last winter down deep when he plowed it. Three shanks behind a D4 18 inches deep, and it screamed on it, ran better than 200 dollars an acre for the job but the soils were so tight they would evengrow decent weeds.

If erosion is a concern, drainage shouldnt be an issue. Compaction and erosion are. In those situations I'd be thinking a lot more about notil and building organic matter.

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johns48jdb

01-21-2008 17:08:53

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Re: Winter farming in reply to [email protected], 01-21-2008 16:06:01

in north al we use to open up the land to allow moisture to run down in the slots of what ever we worked the ground with. the thought was to allow the water to get in and freeze and bust the ground up better. also trap more mositure so it wouldn't run off and be available for plant growth next season.

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01-21-2008 17:08:38

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