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Roger Horstmeye

01-11-2008 08:16:00




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Can you convert a planter to a no till planter and is it costly? What brand of no till (used) would be the best bang for the buck? JD 7000 10 years old be a good idea to look at??




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paul

01-11-2008 18:13:39




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 Re: Corn Planters in reply to Roger Horstmeyer, 01-11-2008 08:16:00  
I've heard for real notill, the standard 7000 is a little light. The 'notill' version had a heavier frame.

For small operation, you can get springs & openers & such from Shoup or the like & make it work.

Seems like farmers who do the converting like to work over an IH Cyclo planter and turn it into the latest 1200 Cyclo for good notill on big acres..... Their press wheels, frames, and available room for front attachments seem to be better suited?

I've got a 7000 planter & love it, so no color war from me, notill doesn't work well here so I can't play with it.

--->Paul

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Gerald J.

01-11-2008 15:09:34




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 Re: Corn Planters in reply to Roger Horstmeyer, 01-11-2008 08:16:00  
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My no till 7000 planter. I put 32% through the ammonia knives on the front. The straight coulters (stolen from my AC 2000 plow) cut the straw and opened up a slot for the 32% about 2" from the row.

The Dawn trash whippers are the key. The factory supplied "not till" ripple coulters are not a benefit in my soil. They work better with the coulters out front to cut the straw and corn stalks so the opening disks don't hair pin the straw.

At the most, a 7000 with trash whippers may need heavier down pressure springs but be careful to not lift the drive wheels off the ground.

This planter was sold in 1974 as a 4 row wide. I made it narrow.

It came with the covering chains. I can't tell they do any good or harm.

Gerald J.

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big jt

01-11-2008 10:19:57




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 Re: Corn Planters in reply to Roger Horstmeyer, 01-11-2008 08:16:00  
For starters I will put on my "correct police" cap and mention that deere wasn't making the 7000 in 97. I think the 7200/7300 series was current in that time frame.

Now to answer your question. In my mind the 7000 would probably be one of the best planters to do this to. All sorts of attachments are available for this family of planters as they seem to be the gold standard.

I should qualify that I don't no-till but do min-till. I am not running any attachments on my late 70's 7000 and get along fine. What you need to ad depends on the condition's you are operating in, but I would guess a row cleaner and some sort of wave coulter should get you up and running. Might need some extra weight to get the coulter in the ground. To repeat the Deere 7000 has probably the most available attachments out there.

Keep in mind this advice is from someone without experience in no-till.

jt

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msb

01-11-2008 09:46:45




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 Re: Corn Planters in reply to Roger Horstmeyer, 01-11-2008 08:16:00  
If the Tru Vee openers are in good shape, you don't really need anything else for a couple years. Add residue managers next.



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georgeky

01-11-2008 09:42:35




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 Re: Corn Planters in reply to Roger Horstmeyer, 01-11-2008 08:16:00  
Yes, the 7000 is a good planter. It can have no till coulters put on it. New they would be expensive.



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