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Log splitter using tractor hyd.

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Illinois Farmal

01-11-2008 06:12:36




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I'd like to build a log splitter that uses the hydraulics from my JD3020. What is required for such a project and are there any plans available? I'm more of a "visual" person and work better from plans than the seat of my pants LOL Thanks in advance.




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src

01-15-2008 06:50:26




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 Re: Log splitter using tractor hyd. in reply to Illinois Farmall, 01-11-2008 06:12:36  
I have a Kelley splitter that I run off of my IH 460 Diesel with the 12GPM hydraulic pump. Works great. It will split wood just as fast as I want to. We've been splitting 6-12 cords a year with it for the last 6-7 years with no problems at all.



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PreciseFarms

01-13-2008 13:16:51




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 Re: Log splitter using tractor hyd. in reply to Illinois Farmall, 01-11-2008 06:12:36  
We have one that was homemade using an old cylinder of a vertical fold 12-row planter, 2x4x3/8 tubing, and some old railroad iron for the wedge and ram. It mounts on the 3 point hitch and it works great. We've always used it on at least a 4020 and lately a 4255. It has split a great deal of wood (at one time for 4 houses) and it still works great. Will have to replace hoses someday as they are about 25 years old. If you'd like I can send a picture or two in a few days. This system is great if you just need to split for yourself. It would be hard to justity a pump and engine just to split for yourself.

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kyhayman

01-13-2008 08:46:55




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 Re: Log splitter using tractor hyd. in reply to Illinois Farmall, 01-11-2008 06:12:36  
I've got one made by Danhauser. Pretty simple, kinda slow running off a Ford 5600 at about 1400 rpm. I've had kids with splitting mauls out work me any given hour, but on a 10 hour day my wood pile matches theirs.

I keep aiming to front mount mine on the skid loader, see if the faster hydraulics on it make a difference.



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johns48jdb

01-11-2008 14:06:06




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 Re: Log splitter using tractor hyd. in reply to Illinois Farmall, 01-11-2008 06:12:36  
two tractors, one with the slpitter and one with a front end loader means a lot of wood cut and split in a day, especailly if your family and another one pitch in. we cut logs in the summer and hauled them out and stacked them up. then when it got cool we used the loader to pick the logs up and move them next to the stack. one person on each end with a chain saw cutting the log to length while being held up waist high with the loader was ease work. the other family's two son loaded the spliter and the daughter - only smart on in the bunch - ran the control lever. other mans wife, he and i stacking and we had a pile of wood in a hurry. cutting the wood in the spring before the sap runs is best and then leaving it in logs stacked out in the sun all summer and it is cured plenty to burn that winter.

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Gerald J.

01-11-2008 09:00:03




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 Re: Log splitter using tractor hyd. in reply to Illinois Farmall, 01-11-2008 06:12:36  
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The 3020 has plenty of flow available, at least 15 gpm and decent presssure, 2250 pounds. The MF-135 has only 4 gpm at best but a little more pressure.

You want to tap the 3020 pressure and use a valve (closed center) on the splitter.

How you tap the 3020 depends on its vintage. If its pre side console (remote and three point on the left side of the dash), you get pressure by replacing the elbow right at the brake pedals with a T and your valve return goes to the transmission oil filter cover which you can drill and tap or buy one for that purpose from Deere. I did that to my early 4020 for loader and back hoe.

The side console 3020 you go to Deere and they have a block that fits between the remove valve and the back of the final rive housing that brings out pressure and return.

A separate engine is more trouble to maintain, but will probably run all day on what the 3020 burns in half an hour.

Gerald J.

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AndrewFromNS

01-11-2008 08:47:07




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 Re: Log splitter using tractor hyd. in reply to Illinois Farmall, 01-11-2008 06:12:36  
CADPlans has plans for a 3-point Splitter that mounts transversely across the back of the tractor, rather than along the length of the tractor, thus reducing the overall length. Since all one is buying is the plans, though, one could easily modify that if they prefer a normally mounted unit, or a unit with wheels.

We split some wood, and when I was younger, we had a Massey 135 that was being store "only for a few weeks" at our place. I forget exactly how long it was there, but it was a darn site longer than a few weeks...a year if not more. Anywho, he had a splitter that used Tractor Aux. Hydraulics...The only problem I had with it was the fact the exhaust vented out back, under the 3pt.
I considered buying or building a splitter when I looked at buying my Super-C, but decided that I don't do enough splitting to justify the expense.

AR

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pvia

01-11-2008 08:40:26




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 Re: Log splitter using tractor hyd. in reply to Illinois Farmall, 01-11-2008 06:12:36  
I have a homemade splitter that runs off the hydraulics on my IH 400D. I consists of a two way cylinder (large ram) mounted on a heavy I-beam with a two way valve mounted on the splitter (just like you would find on a tractor). You set the tractor valve to single acting (fix the tractor control lever in on position, tarp strap) with both hoses going to the log splitter valve. Use the valve on the splitter to extend and retract the cylinder. You can put it all on wheels at any height you wish. When you get a tough log just crack the tractor throttle for more hydraulic pressure. It works great, at half throttle the old 400 uses very little fuel and rarely makes the motor work.

Do keep in mind that the larger the cylinder the more splitting force you will have. You can build this for a very reasonable cost if you have or can get used components. I can take a pic and send to you if you like. Phil

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Bill in IL

01-11-2008 08:37:43




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 Re: Log splitter using tractor hyd. in reply to Illinois Farmall, 01-11-2008 06:12:36  
We use one on a modern tractor (agco 5670) run the tractor at about 1200rpm using a 4" cylinder. Speed is satisfactory but could be better, fuel use is probably a little higher but buying a pump and engine is costly too and you have to maintain another enginge. It depends upon how much you will use it. I just have not taken the time to convert mine to an engine driven pump.... someday



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Mike (WA)

01-11-2008 08:16:48




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 Re: Log splitter using tractor hyd. in reply to Illinois Farmall, 01-11-2008 06:12:36  
Spitters using tractor hydraulics are usually not very satisfactory, because of the low GPM of the tractor hydraulic system. Makes the splitter very slow.



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Bob

01-11-2008 17:40:02




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 Re: Log splitter using tractor hyd. in reply to Mike (WA), 01-11-2008 08:16:48  
The hydraulics on a 3020 are NOT "slow", and there is 2250 PSI available.



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Bill in IL

01-11-2008 07:44:54




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 Re: Log splitter using tractor hyd. in reply to Illinois Farmall, 01-11-2008 06:12:36  
OK Thanks a lot.
I went to ebay to check to be sure there was splitter plans out there for you. I ended up at their website for millers wood cutting and they have plans to build a firewood processor. I have seen these things at farm shows and they could save a guy some time. I have some of the parts already on hand and think this would be a fun project that I could use and make better than they show in their video.

I don't need anymore projects so now can somebody talk me out of this.

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Larry59

01-11-2008 07:40:25




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 My Thoughts on this in reply to Illinois Farmall, 01-11-2008 06:12:36  
You can find pictures of them on Ebay. Was just there looking at them. .. also every year I cut and spit wood for the winter months. I would build or buy one that is on wheels to pull behind tractor if needed. You will find that you will use your tractor to move logs alot. With the rear attactment on it. You can not move around in areas very easy and sometimes not at all cause of total length.
If you have a loader on front of tractor as I do. You load the wood to be cut in it. Pull up to side of a spliter and pull out of it onto the spliter for cutting. Easy on the back to! *S
So tieing up your tractor with a rear spliter is not really the best unless your young and need the exercise. You will pay for it later in lift to. lol Have a good day.

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Larry59

01-11-2008 07:43:01




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 Re: My Thoughts on this in reply to Larry59, 01-11-2008 07:40:25  
I for got this. The price of fuel to run your tractor will be far more. Then using one on wheels with a small motor on it. ... Have you priced a cylinder? are the hydraulic levers and metal you will need. Not to mention the shaft to pto and the protection cover you will need on the shaft? Buy one used is best if money is tight.



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Soldier Tom

01-16-2008 05:20:12




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 Re: My Thoughts on this in reply to Larry59, 01-11-2008 07:43:01  
Larry, you mentioned PTO shaft? I hadn't thought of that before; running a PTO powered self contained splitter rig. Mine runs off the hydo outlets from the tractor.
Got my home made job for about 400 plus new hoses and spool valve from TSC, they had a new one out there for about 600 that was mighty shiney and yellow, looked pretty well built too. It was on a pivot set up to do horozonal or vertical splitting off the three point hitch using tractor hydros. We use a 253 MF and there isn't much that it won't press through. If I had it to do again, I'd probably go get the TSC's unit for six hundred and save the aggrivation of putting it all together. PLUS, waranty on theirs and not mine.
Just my thoughts.

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Bill in IL

01-11-2008 06:56:04




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 Re: Log splitter using tractor hyd. in reply to Illinois Farmall, 01-11-2008 06:12:36  
For about 10.00 you can get 3pt plans off ebay.



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