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cutting tree roots using a Farmall M

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John M Seasly

01-06-2008 07:32:48




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I would like to know what implement would work best on a Farmall M for cutting tree roots. I have several trees that are right next to my crop areas. And I do not want to cut them down yet. So any suggestions will be appreciated John.




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Ultradog MN

01-07-2008 02:44:57




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 Re: cutting tree roots using a Farmall M in reply to John M Seasly, 01-06-2008 07:32:48  
A few years ago I had a backhoe come in and clear some brush and trees at the edge of my field. I tried to turn it over with a one bottom plow but kept getting hung up on roots etc.
So I built this trencher tool. The vertical bar is a piece of grader blade that I sharpened with a grinder to a pretty sharp edge.
Had it hooked behind an 8N and was pleased to see it slice through roots nearly 2" thick.
A few times it got so hung up that it would stop the tractor but I"d just back up and hit it again. Spent a couple evenings going back and forth, crossways etc and had most of the roots chopped up or ripped out and laying on top of the soil. I had to clean up all the debris by hand which was a pia but it did a really good job of cutting off all the roots.
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Larry T

01-06-2008 21:55:55




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 Re: cutting tree roots using a Farmall M in reply to John M Seasly, 01-06-2008 07:32:48  
I know you want to do this with your tractor, but I had a similar problem a few years ago and what I did was go down and rent the largest Ditch Witch chain trencher I could find. I went along that edge and actually made I think about 12 passes going as deep as I could about 2 feet apart for an over all width of 10 feet or so. Cut the trench and then refill it and then cut again right beside it. After the third pass or so I was pulling out sections of root from a foot to three feet in length and from little ones up to about 10" in diameter. That was about 12 years ago and I haven"t had any more problems in that area at all.
You might find that it"s worth the few bucks. I rented the largest I could find so I didn"t have to walk behind it:)

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johns48jdb

01-10-2008 13:11:13




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 Re: cutting tree roots using a Farmall M in reply to Larry T, 01-06-2008 21:55:55  
they make a rock rake that works great on pilling up root or claening up a lot after storm damage, that type thing. woods makes on and it will pivot all the way around so you can back up with it and really pile up the roots, brush what ever. i made one once that just had some 3 inch channel shapened to a point with a cutting torch and mounted to a beam that had clevis on it to mount it to the 3 pt hitch on my tractor i made it real tall so you could pile a lot of roots up under it with out it stopping up on you. a few braces here and there and it worked good. it was tall enough to where i used a piece of a house traler frame to make a drag out of it to move dirt. i simply welded it to the root rake up high with a few chain links connecting it to the frame and a hook to hold it up out of the way when not needed to rake dirt. the house trailer frame was an "I" beam type thing and by setting the root rake down at the front as far as it would go with the 3rd arm it dug in real good.

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BushogPapa

01-06-2008 19:31:12




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 Re: cutting tree roots using a Farmall M in reply to John M Seasly, 01-06-2008 07:32:48  
I would think about the simplest thing to use would be a one or two bottom 16" plow...probably Pull-Type...might not want a "trip Bottom", or.. lock the trips, so they won't.. Just run easy and let it cut everything it can, and the hydrolic lift will help break the bigger roots...at least uncover the biggest ones so you can cut them off.. Surprising how many you can cut off this way...!

Ron..

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01-06-2008 14:15:06




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 Re: cutting tree roots using a Farmall M in reply to John M Seasly, 01-06-2008 07:32:48  
"I do not want to cut them down yet." Why wait? You will need them cut eventually anyway if they are bothering your crops and as others here said, it won't do much good just cutting roots on one side of the tree.



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mark

01-06-2008 10:43:34




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 Re: cutting tree roots using a Farmall M in reply to John M Seasly, 01-06-2008 07:32:48  
some food for thought is....nurserymen regularly dock the roots on small trees to invigorate root growth! I'd bet that instead of helping you...the trees would just make extra roots.



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Old Ford Mechanic

01-06-2008 09:52:12




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 Re: cutting tree roots using a Farmall M in reply to John M Seasly, 01-06-2008 07:32:48  
Be careful using that "M" to work on those roots.You could very easily have the tractor topple over backwards.More than one situation like this has resulted in death.You need a small crawler or a dozer for this job!



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johns48jdb

01-06-2008 08:54:50




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 Re: cutting tree roots using a Farmall M in reply to John M Seasly, 01-06-2008 07:32:48  
i think your wanting to cut the roots from the trees that are growing out into your field. if you could find a single point sub moisture plow that might do it for you. i don't know if the owner would want to do this or not, but hire somebody with a ditch witch to go down the fence row and cut the roots for you. i don't really think it will help you that much over any length of time to even bother with trying to do this. i assume that the roots are robing mositure from the ground where your trying to grow something.

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El Toro

01-06-2008 08:30:49




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 Re: cutting tree roots using a Farmall M in reply to John M Seasly, 01-06-2008 07:32:48  
Unless they're small roots I don't think your M is going to be much help. You may be better off to have someone with a stump grinder to grind those roots off, then use your M to pull out the remainder of the root near your crop field. Hal



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