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salser

12-30-2007 16:01:24




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Hi,
I'm trying to figure out about ring rollers and whether they are the right implement to help me level out some lumps and bumps in our pastures. We have a horse farm and we use the area in question to train horses for jumping and so it would be nice to have a fairly uniform surface. We have the problem of lots of moles which make dirt mounds and over time I think the mounds tend to grow over with grass and become lumps. I thought that perhaps a ring roller might be able to crush down the lumps and create a more uniform surface. My questions are:
1) is a ring roller an appropriate tool for this?
2) would the best approach be to disk it first and then roll it (in other words should I be looking for a disk as well)?
3) what is the difference between a ring roller and a schmiser roller? i ask this because at a somewhat nearby used implement dealer they list them seperately but I can't figure out what the difference is (http://billwlee.com/inventory.asp)
4) do you guys have any other better ideas for how to achieve and maintain a nice uniform pasture surface?

FYI we are located in Western Washington just North of Seattle.
Thanks for any help or words of wisdom you can provide!

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Up North Louie

01-05-2008 05:46:37




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 Re: question about ring rollers in reply to salser, 12-30-2007 16:01:24  
Old bed springs and chains behind them can level critter mounds nicely without compaction or tearing things up. Also distributes manure piles in pasture land. We use them a lot.

Louie



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john48jdb

01-01-2008 05:48:01




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 Re: question about ring rollers in reply to salser, 12-30-2007 16:01:24  
moles live on grubs. kill the grubs and the moles go away - right into your yard. lowes - home depot stock the grandulated kind and it works good in my yards. a section on chain link fence makes a cheap drag, but doesn't weigh enough to know over hils. sever heavy timbers put together with eye bolts that go all the way through the timbers will make you a good drag. don't make the drag real wide or if you do make it where it will pivot i the middle so it will al remain in contact with the ground even if one side is riding ove a hill. use the chain link fence behind that drag to smooth things out nicely. a bar across the front to pull it with is necessary and one behind keeps it from matting up. takes a lot of clamps to hold it in place. shouldn't cost to much to build one of these.

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Jerry/MT

12-30-2007 17:55:44




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 Re: question about ring rollers in reply to salser, 12-30-2007 16:01:24  
You don"t want to use a ring roller. That"s for tilled soil.

A pasture harrow (some times called a chain harrow) may be more usefull tool. If you use it often enough it will level out the mole hills and scatter manure in the pastures and comb out the thatch. If you can find one, a spike tooth harrow can also be used. You can also make various kinds of drags out of tires, timbers or even old pallets. The object is to move the soft soil into a level configuration.

The problem I used to have when I lived in Western Washington with moles was not the humps that they left but the hollows where the ground caved in. That"s probably more dangerous for jumping horses. I don"t think anything short of tillage will deal with them. possibly spreading sand and then dragging would do it but that messes up the ground plays hob with the grass. You just may have to build a corral and bed it with sand and then you might be able to control the surface for jumpers.

Where abouts north of Settle are you located. I lived in King and Pierce County for many years and did my WSU Extension Livestock Advisor training in Snohomish County.

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salser

01-03-2008 12:31:02




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 Re: question about ring rollers in reply to Jerry/MT, 12-30-2007 17:55:44  
Jerry and others,

thanks for the replies to my question about ring rollers. your advice definitely helps. Jerry, we are located up between Lake Stevens and Granite Falls in Snohomish County. We bought an old Dairy farm and converted it into a horse facility.

In answer to your idea about creating a corral - we already have a jumping arena with sand footing but the training is for cross country jumping and so we have an area of about 15 acres with various types of jumps built in. It needs to be grass, but I was just hoping to try to keep it somewhat flat. I will try a weighted down drag harrow along with some sections of train track pulled behind it.

Best Regards.

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BCnT

12-30-2007 17:22:41




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 Re: question about ring rollers in reply to salser, 12-30-2007 16:01:24  
a roller with enuff weight to smash gopher mounds is also gonna compact your soil...grass will not grow too good...i use a drag made out of 4 lengths of railroad track to level my hay pastures and break up manure in the cattle pasture...imagine a narrow cattle guard drug behind tractor.



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