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Metal for Spring Tooth Cultivator

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SuperA-Tx

12-27-2007 13:46:48




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I am thinking about bending some metal to make the spring teeth for a Cub 3 Field Cultivator.

Is there a special kind of metal used for that purpose or just regular metal?




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SuperA-Tx

12-28-2007 07:52:19




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 Re: Metal for Spring Tooth Cultivator - PICTURE in reply to SuperA-Tx, 12-27-2007 13:46:48  
Here is a picture of the one of the S tines for the Cub 3 Field Cultivator. They made one kind 1947 - 1949 that had the main spring and a shorter helper spring. It also had a round kind of round clamp about half way down the tooth.

The one in the picture was made 1950 - 1968, It was same as the afore mentioned one but the helper spring was longer.

I have the clamp but need the two springs shown below like made 1950 - 1968.

I also need the two gauge wheels which were metal with a square center. Shanks on these wheels were 1 1/4", same as the cultivator shanks on a farmall cub, SA, or 140.

I have a friend looking for three sets of the springs of either the older type or the newer type.

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Tom671

12-28-2007 03:36:43




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 Re: Metal for Spring Tooth Cultivator in reply to SuperA-Tx, 12-27-2007 13:46:48  
Super A
Do you have a picture of what they look like. I might have what you need. I have a old IH drag type spring harrow laying around not doing anything and I am getting ready to disassemble it.



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Bob Huntress

12-27-2007 14:40:53




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 Re: Metal for Spring Tooth Cultivator in reply to SuperA-Tx, 12-27-2007 13:46:48  
It's roughly the same metal as the leaf springs on a truck, but like your truck's leaf springs, it is tempered to spring steel. This means that if you heat it up to bend it into shape, it will no longer have the same spring quality.



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Bob Huntress

12-27-2007 15:15:35




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 Re: Metal for Spring Tooth Cultivator in reply to Bob Huntress, 12-27-2007 14:40:53  
By the way, you will not be bending a truck spring into shape as a cultivator cold, without breaking it, first. That is another quality of spring steel.



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SuperA-Tx

12-27-2007 16:42:54




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 Re: Metal for Spring Tooth Cultivator in reply to Bob Huntress, 12-27-2007 15:15:35  
Bob,

Im starting not to like spring steel. lol

Your correct tho. I been doing some reading up and if your cold bend it you will break it and if you heat it you ruin the ability of the metal to spring back.

Annealing metal is another thing I dont fully understand. Lots more to this than just heating and bending.

I may get one from that Shoup site or tractor supply and see how it matches up with spings on the cultivator now. I know they are differant tho. I wonder if the springs can be bent "a little" cold where they would match the old springs.

Case has the main spring but not the helper spring. It costs $75.76 and has to be shipped out of Canada. I would still need the helper spring.

I may need to wait this out and see if an old used one comes up for sale.

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Don-Wi

12-28-2007 00:32:47




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 Re: Metal for Spring Tooth Cultivator in reply to SuperA-Tx, 12-27-2007 16:42:54  
Got a opicture of you cultivator? After hearing you talk about the helper spring, it sounds like an older Glencoe, and they made cultivators for Case. We've also got an old Oliver cultivator that is the exact same frame as the 3 Glencoe's we have, but the mounting brackets for the teeth are different. They still use similar teeth though, and are interchangable between Oliver and Glencoe.

Both names are owned by AGCO now.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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Leroy

12-28-2007 05:39:06




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 Re: Metal for Spring Tooth Cultivator in reply to Don-Wi, 12-28-2007 00:32:47  
Glenco also made the Ford field cultivators but the teeth mount was stronger on the Ford versions than on the Glenco versions



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Bob

12-27-2007 13:56:02




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 Re: Metal for Spring Tooth Cultivator in reply to SuperA-Tx, 12-27-2007 13:46:48  
The tines are some sort of spring steel.

Take a look at the link below, for a source of ready-made ones:



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glennster

12-27-2007 13:53:23




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 Re: Metal for Spring Tooth Cultivator in reply to SuperA-Tx, 12-27-2007 13:46:48  
its a different type of steel. if you are going to try and fab something up, get some old leaf springs from a car or pickup. or, try shoupparts . com see if they have some spring teeth that will work. look for maybe ones off an i-h vibra-shank, and some danish sweeps(duckfoot). may work ok!!



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