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JD 16-7B Grain Drill thoughts

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dead furrow

04-11-2000 15:28:27




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I bought a fair looking John Deere 16-7 Model B Grain Drill at auction for $125. It has rear galvanized boxes and smaller galvanized boxes up front. Steel spiral tubes come from the rear feeders and plastic hoses come down from the smaller front boxes. Drill has single disk openers and a few funning looking chains hang'n off in back of several of the drills. Need experienced help here.
1. what are those drag chains for? Does EACH drill need a chain drag?
2. won't they drag over the thin dirt where i just drilled the seeds and uncover some of them?
3. several friends say this drill will also drop fertilizer. Which boxes does the fert go in?
4. Can Duct tape be used to cover unused feeder openings (so row crops can be planted)?
5. It has a long green rod hinged to the tonge with a large spring go'n from it to the lowering system - this is not shown anywhere in OM. is this for depth pressure? (nothing "latches" it in position, it just wobbles around )
6. After setting up drill as best as possible, how do you verify that it's planting correctly? Stop after 100' and dig around and look for seeds? (it'd be help to get done with ten acres and still find full seed boxes! - or dump six bushels of seed in first 200 feet!)
7. There is still what looks like seed and spider webs, mouse turds, and red/green stains in and around the feeder opennings in the bottom ofthe boxes. How clean this out for good grain flow? Flush with water presure and dry out? 8. I've sprayed diesel in and around stuff, like the OM mentions, do you have to wash the diesel residue out before using for grain/seed? Won't diesel kill seed?
9. When drilling the next pass, how do you know where to line up your path?
10. How prepare seed bed? How fine? How smooth?
11. Does planted field need to be rolled after drilling? . No, heavy tractor wheels would seem to destroy the lay of the seed you just drilled!
as you can tell, any help would be appreciated. there's just some stuff not in owners manual. Farmers have learned things from young on... I didn't. i want to learn. i want to use my old equipment.

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Cotton

04-14-2000 07:33:12




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 Re: JD 16-7B Grain Drill thoughts in reply to dead furrow, 04-11-2000 15:28:27  
I use duct tape in mine to close off every other seed hole and I have not had any problems. As far as cleaning your drill i would just use a garden hose. I think it will clean it better than air and if you use any type of fertilizer you should certainly clean it with soapy water.



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Tim(nj)

04-11-2000 17:12:47




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 Re: JD 16-7B Grain Drill thoughts in reply to dead furrow, 04-11-2000 15:28:27  
1. what are those drag chains for? Covering seed. Does EACH drill need a chain drag? Run with all chains on, or all chains off.
2. won't they drag over the thin dirt where i just drilled the seeds and uncover some of them? no, the large seed should be in a furrow and the chains just drop loose dirt over the top. The chains also mix in grass seed.
3. several friends say this drill will also drop fertilizer. Which boxes does the fert go in? The B was not made with a fertilizer hopper. An add on box was available, but from your despription, I don't think you have it. You do have a grass seed box on the front.
4. Can Duct tape be used to cover unused feeder openings (so row crops can be planted)? Deere still sells stopper plates that fit into the feedcup openings. I have a set for my FB for 14" soybeans. They don't cost much. 5. It has a long green rod hinged to the tonge with a large spring go'n from it to the lowering system - this is not shown anywhere in OM. is this for depth pressure? (nothing "latches" it in position, it just wobbles around ) Not sure on this. Is this drill rope lift or hydraulic? If hydraulic, that could be a return spring for a single-action cylinder.
6. After setting up drill as best as possible, how do you verify that it's planting correctly? Stop after 100' and dig around and look for seeds? (it'd be help to get done with ten acres and still find full seed boxes! - or dump six bushels of seed in first 200 feet!) Set according to chart in manual. There should be an acre meter on the drill somewhere. Figure out how much seed you should use with the setting you've selected per acre, then divide by 4. Put the amount you come up with in the box. Then run until the meter hits 1/4 acre. If there's seed left in the box, set the rate a little higher. If the box is empty, set the rate a little lower. You still need to dig around, to make sure you've got the right depth for whatever you're planting.
7. There is still what looks like seed and spider webs, mouse turds, and red/green stains in and around the feeder opennings in the bottom ofthe boxes. How clean this out for good grain flow? I just vacuum it out with a Shop-Vac. You can blow air through the tubes to clear them.
Flush with water presure and dry out? Don't get the inside of the drill wet.
8. I've sprayed diesel in and around stuff, like the OM mentions, do you have to wash the diesel residue out before using for grain/seed? Won't diesel kill seed? No, it'll be fine
9. When drilling the next pass, how do you know where to line up your path? For 7-inch rows, you just follow the wheel track back. For wider row crops, you should have markers like a corn planter.
10. How prepare seed bed? Plow, disk, harrow. Don't leave much trash on top, these drills weren't designed to handle it. How fine? Break up the clods, fill in any furrows, the smoother the better.
11. Does planted field need to be rolled after drilling? . For soybeans, yes. It's not hard to put a rear hitch on the drill, and tow a cultipacker along behind while drilling. That's what I do when I plant beans with my FB. You don't have to roll small grains.

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paul

04-12-2000 09:25:08




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 Re: Re: JD 16-7B Grain Drill thoughts in reply to Tim(nj), 04-11-2000 17:12:47  
Here in MN the old folks would harrow after planting, not pack. Maybe bumped up the seed count 10%. This really helps level the field, as we tend to be planting in wet soils & leave a few ridges. Harrow at a cross-angle to planting.

--->Paul



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Z-bar

04-12-2000 08:53:19




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 Re: Re: JD 16-7B Grain Drill thoughts in reply to Tim(nj), 04-11-2000 17:12:47  
Tim nj. I think that long green thing with the spring that just wobbles around, is to hook the hyd. hoses to. keeping them out of the way. With your reply he should be able to hook up and drill with no problems.



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Dfurrow

04-12-2000 09:08:41




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 Re: Re: Re: JD 16-7B Grain Drill thoughts in reply to Z-bar, 04-12-2000 08:53:19  
ZBar, thanks for the idea about the wobbly lever/spring. After studying the OM, that's what i though also but it's not. The hyd hose holder rod is missing - will have to make one. HEY, just use that wobbly lever, right? The OM shows helper springs (one type for the B and another style used on the FB-B and DF-B drills) used by..."Turn the nut on the spring eyebolt sufficiently to assist the openers to penetrate hard ground conditions..." My lever/spring goes to the opener lift shaft, so Tim may be correct, it's for bringing back a one-way hyd cyl. Normally I would worry, because i've seen enough "field modifications" to not worry; however, this looks like factory paint and wobble. thks

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DF

04-12-2000 09:11:52




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: JD 16-7B Grain Drill thoughts in reply to Dfurrow, 04-12-2000 09:08:41  
I predict that digital cameras will become very popular.



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DeadFurrow

04-12-2000 08:17:13




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 Re: Re: JD 16-7B Grain Drill thoughts in reply to Tim(nj), 04-11-2000 17:12:47  
Thank you Tim(nj).



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