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amo

12-07-2007 17:27:15




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I am looking at an equipent trailer made from the frame of an old mobile home. The wheels and tires are mobile home type. Can the hubs be changed to automobile type hubs, rims and tires? What is the strength of the mobile home tires? Thanks Amo




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T.C. in Tx

12-10-2007 18:33:04




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 Re: trailer tires in reply to amo, 12-07-2007 17:27:15  
I recently attempted to change the hubs on a set of mobile home axles to regular trailer hubs. I took a hub with bearings removed to a trailer parts dealer. What I found out is the most common type "new" mobile home axles cannot be converted. An easy way to determine this is to look at the bearings. If the outer bearing is almost the same size as the inner bearing then it is a "no go" situation.

On the other hand, if it is an older type with a larger inner bearing, then a good trailer place can fix you up with regular hubs.

I also had one set of axles from a real old (1964) mobile home that had regular looking wheels with 5 bolt pattern on 5 1/2 inch spread. Wheels with the same bolt pattern are common. What is not common is the center circle diameter. Most are too small, but you could torch it out to make it fit. Problem with that is you lose some strength unless you fit it up exactly to the hub so the hub can help carry the weight instead of just the bolts.

I finally just sold one trailer as is with the mobile home axles and bought a replacement newer trailer for what I would have spent putting a new set of axles under it.

Hope this helps and good luck.

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RN

12-10-2007 16:52:12




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 Re: trailer tires in reply to amo, 12-07-2007 17:27:15  
Got a frame and axles from salvage yard- frame 19.5 foot, 8 inch deep main rails, doubled C section. Beaver tail main rails ar 5 inch C section at about 30 degree angle to main rails. 3 of 4 wheels have tires mounted saying 'trailer' 1 marked 'mobile home use'. Planks bolted on 2 weeks back, short beavertail, plan is farm use, hay hauler and combine head main probable use. Couple people that have seen it want to borrow it for car hauling and boat hauling. About $300/400 into it, lights not on yet.

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hd6gtom

12-10-2007 09:35:04




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 Re: trailer tires in reply to amo, 12-07-2007 17:27:15  
Yes you can change rims and hubs. You will need to go someplace that specializes in that type of product. Around here that would be midwest wheel and rim. If you have mobil home tires on these rims, remember they are made for 1 trip. You can find heavy duty low boy tires to go on these rims. If your are going to do a lot of hauling with this trailer, find some hubs and convert it to 16" tires. Used ones are to be found anywhere, 10 plys-cheep and hold up far better than the 14.5-8 ply trailer house tires.

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MurrayE

12-10-2007 10:54:43




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 Re: trailer tires in reply to hd6gtom, 12-10-2007 09:35:04  
Heavy duty low-boy tires ??? What type of tire are these ? I will not be doing a lot of hauling with the trailer. Cheers, Murray



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Joe(TX)

12-10-2007 05:11:41




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 Re: trailer tires in reply to amo, 12-07-2007 17:27:15  
you can buy tires of that size whick are lowboy trailer rated and not mobile home only tires



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kyplowboy

12-08-2007 23:11:55




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 Re: trailer tires in reply to amo, 12-07-2007 17:27:15  
I don't know if they are legal or not, some say not but you see a whole lot of them on the road around here. I have a 16' bumper pull that I haul every thing I haul on. As for the tires, there is a mobil home dealer here that sells new homes and some places they have to take the tires and axils when they set them up. They have a pile of them out back. They sell the wheels and tires that have been pulled from the factory to the dealer to the home site only for $35 each and axils (you can pick through them) for $70. Like I said don't know if they are legal or not but they pull good, last for ever, will hold alot of lbs for thier size, and they are cheap.

Good luck.

Dave

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georgeky

12-09-2007 10:24:22




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 Re: trailer tires in reply to kyplowboy, 12-08-2007 23:11:55  
Long as it isn't licensed as a commercial trailer they are legal here. Falls in the farm trailer/implement catagory. No lights or brakes required. The tires are not legal for licensed trailers, but axles are. Lots and lots of them on the road, and they do make good trailers. Hell my factory built tag a long isn't half a stout as the one I built from house traler parts. That is why I built it. I am going to get a pic of it right now and post here later on.

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johns48jdb

12-08-2007 05:05:04




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 Re: trailer tires in reply to amo, 12-07-2007 17:27:15  
in al the house trailer tires cannot be used on a trailer that hauls heavy equiptment.



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old

12-07-2007 20:35:51




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 Re: trailer tires in reply to amo, 12-07-2007 17:27:15  
Some of the older ones used the ford type/size wheels on them and some even had the 6 bolt chev. wheels on them. I have owned both. You can buy lowboy tires that fit those donut type rims. And or if you have a local R.V. place you can get replacement hubs for some of them and brake kits also. Some of those axles are very heavy and some are on the light side just depends on how old they are. Now days mobile homes/companys use the same axle over and over and over again. The home gets set up and they then take the axles off and they are shipped back to the factory and a new home built on top of them again. I usto pull them cross country for a living and I can tell you some storys about that

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MurrayE

12-08-2007 05:40:06




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 Re: trailer tires in reply to old, 12-07-2007 20:35:51  
I am sort of picking up speed on this information. I have 6 axles and lots of rims. (some of the tires have Mobile Home stamped on them and they are not accepted for an inspection)
The others are made by Firestone and are weather checked and not acceptable by the inspection department. Am in the process of installing/replacing brakes. Thought/hoping there might be a cheaper alternative for the purchase of tires. Probably would have been just as easy to purchasea trailer ready for the road. I guess when the project is complete it should be on the road for a little over $1,000.00. Cheers, Murray

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MurrayE

12-07-2007 18:18:28




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 Re: trailer tires in reply to amo, 12-07-2007 17:27:15  
Would be interested in more information on the ford rims that would fit on the mobile home axles. Last winter I did purchase a trailer, which I plan to use for hauling tractors. This frame is 6" channel iron fairly heavy duty. The laws in our province has changed for the breaking system. That is what I am now working on. Plus the tires will have to be replaced. (weather checked) Cheers, Murray



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iowa_tire_guy

12-07-2007 17:34:46




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 Re: trailer tires in reply to amo, 12-07-2007 17:27:15  
Don't know about switching hubs but you can buy 8-14.5 tires for your rims that are 12 ply and can carry a big load. A local plumber has a 3 axle that he carries a midsize backhoe on.



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MIKE FRENCH

12-07-2007 17:33:51




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 Re: trailer tires in reply to amo, 12-07-2007 17:27:15  
First the frame wont be that heavy of steel. Depends on style of axle that is used, some have 5 bolt wheels and ford pick up wheels will fit, had a trailer with spokes on it and had lowboy tires on it and got along well, if the price is right go for it, my 2 cents



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old

12-07-2007 20:38:12




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 Re: trailer tires in reply to MIKE FRENCH, 12-07-2007 17:33:51  
Sorry but some mobile home frames are heavier then what are used on a lot of goose neck trailers and yes some aren't. I have 2 mobile home frames right now that are made of 5 inch C channel 1/4 inch thick and they are very heavy and strong.



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georgeky

12-07-2007 21:04:38




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 Re: trailer tires in reply to old, 12-07-2007 20:38:12  
Rich, I see this on here every once in a while. I have one built from mobile home frame that will haul dozers. I had the D-3 on it several times of course it only weighs 17,000 pounds. Had a 22 foot gooseneck made from mobile home frame, and it was a brute. Not all frames are the same. but some make Jim dandy trailers.



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old

12-07-2007 21:17:49




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 Re: trailer tires in reply to georgeky, 12-07-2007 21:04:38  
Yep I started building a trailer a few years ago and its made from a double 5 inch C channel. 2 frames about a foot apart running down both sides of it. 3 axles under it I was building it to hual my TD6 dozer but then I sold the dozer and never got back to it. Maybe one of those days. It also uses the 5 bolt ford type rims with 15 inch tires

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