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Evan350

11-27-2007 11:30:09




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I got 'free' with a tractor a 7' King Kutter mower. The blades are shot and the holes they mount to on the blade carrier are seriously 'egged'. I just want to remove the hole assembly and get new blades and carrier. I got the center bolt off no problem, but my meager attempts to pry the carrier off with one crow bar have done nothing to get it off the spindle. What do you recommend to free the carrier from the spindle? I only have one big crow bar, but if I got a 2nd one and have two people prying from either side would that work better? Any chance of damaging the bearing in the gear box doing this?

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Billy NY

11-28-2007 07:15:59




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 Re: getting blade carrer off in reply to Evan350, 11-27-2007 11:30:09  
Also, use care to protect the output shaft threads if prying as shown, using 2 prybars from the outside on the channel that holds the blades, may give you a better chance at applying equal forces to the blade holder, lessening the binding action, the one pictured is tapered, so it seems to lift off as you pry, it gains clearance, does not bind when prying as shown.



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Billy NY

11-28-2007 07:09:39




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 Re: getting blade carrer off in reply to Evan350, 11-27-2007 11:30:09  
Not sure if yours is similar, but 2 pry bars would seem to work easily the one pictured comes off easily with one. This is from a Rhino SE-6. One thing in the manual for it that stands out, is the 450 lbs. of torque called for the nut that holds the blade carrier to the output shaft, as well as using a heavy hammer to seat it and re-tighten to 450 lbs., it also reminds you to use spacers under the nut to protect the threads. It may be on there and or seized, might take some doing to break the bond, but it ought to come free. Heat is probably not useable here due to the shaft seal, but some kind of impact and or puller may help, might have to drill holes and fabricate something to pull it off, no way could I imagine using a grinder to cut the one pictured off, I'd use a torch until I got close to the channel that holds the blades, then pry on that. This one is tapered fit with splines, I've used a light coat of anti seize or grease on the shaft, seems to hold fine, have not torqued it to what they called for yet, thought it's snug, never had any trouble from that either.

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johns48jdb

11-28-2007 18:47:34




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 Re: getting blade carrer off in reply to Billy NY, 11-28-2007 07:09:39  
i'm really lost on what you'll are talking about, but i think i would put the nut back on the end of the shaft before prizing against it. seems like you have enough problems without messing up the threads on the shaft.



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Billy NY

11-29-2007 16:02:13




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 Re: getting blade carrer off in reply to johns48jdb, 11-28-2007 18:47:34  
I thought I had the same problem as Evan, could not get the blade carrier/stump jumper pan off, needed to tighten the gear box to mower deck bolts before they ovalled. I used a pry bar, about a 5'-0" length, hexagonally shaped, with the foot as shown in the photo, flat edge of the middle of the bar resting on the side of the top of the shaft as shown, to my surprise it lifted off, it really needs to come straight to slide off without binding at first, I had enough clearance from the threads, but yes, putting the nut back on would protect them, and is a smart move to do so.

I had posted this same question here before working on removing the pan, not much of a response on the subject, so I went straight to it, took some photos, annotated same, for future reference here, if someone else had the same problem, low and behold, similar question, assuming the King Kutter is of similar design, hopefully it was some help, which was the point of taking the time to post the photos, whadda you talking about there flapjack ? ;)

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johns48jdb

11-27-2007 15:16:41




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 Re: getting blade carrer off in reply to Evan350, 11-27-2007 11:30:09  
i"m kinda lost here, but can"t you take the nuts off the blades and remove the shaft that drives it out the top of the gear box and not hurt the shafts. just sounds like you don"t have every thing undone yet. look for some bolts under the bottom. not real familiar with your mower, but i"ve heard they are good.



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Roger in Iowa

11-27-2007 11:57:46




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 Re: getting blade carrer off in reply to Evan350, 11-27-2007 11:30:09  
If the carrier is shot, grind down one side, or both, and split it. Don't grind too deep and get into the spindle.

Roger in Iowa



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Evan350

11-27-2007 14:30:38




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 Re: getting blade carrer off in reply to Roger in Iowa, 11-27-2007 11:57:46  
Hmmm, hadn't thought of that approach, but it sounds like it should work. I'll stock up on wheels for the grinder before I start!



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