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mitchp

11-07-2007 16:40:39




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Got a few questions on a John Deere Grain drill i saw for sale. It looks like the model B drill. I read the chart on it and saw they listed turnips, beets and small seeds as stuff it would plant. I saw it had 7" spacings on it, is it possible to plant using just certain shoots and not every single one, i would want beets spaced wider than 7" apart. Also when you pour seed in the box, how do you get it all back out? Will it plant a small amount or do you haev to put alot of seed in at once. Sorry for all the crazy questions, never used one and have no knowledge about them. I'm wanting to use it for small vegetable seed and sowing cover crops, will it work ok for stuff like that?

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Don-Wi

11-08-2007 00:53:09




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 Re: Grain Drill Questions in reply to mitchp, 11-07-2007 16:40:39  
We've got a B- Dafd used it a couple times back in the day to plant corn, he just used duct tape to cover the openings he didn't want to use. To clean it out, we use a shop vac.

If you want to plant a small amount, you'd have to make something like a funnel that will hold it right above the opengin you want to use- could probably use an actual funnel and see how that would work.

If it has the grass seeder on the front, then it'll hold smaller amounts. I think the 2 boxes on ours holds about 1-1 1/2 50 lb. bags of alfalfa seed.

We use ours to plant oats as a cover crop over the alfalfa. Oats in the big box, alfalfa in the grass seeder. Don't know of many drills around here that came w/out a grass seeder for planting hayfeilds- just wouldn't make sense not to have it.

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Agman

11-09-2007 08:52:38




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 Re: Grain Drill Questions in reply to Don-Wi, 11-08-2007 00:53:09  
Where are you hitching that packer onto the drill at. Doesn't seem the drill frame would be heavy enough to pull a mulcher as they can be an extremely heavy load if soil is loose or sandy. Did you build a hitch on the back of the drill?

Thanks, Agman



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Leroy

11-09-2007 17:31:34




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 Re: Grain Drill Questions in reply to Agman, 11-09-2007 08:52:38  
It is just a packer only, not a cultimulcher, no teeth and they pull very easy, I have done that for years, hitch just bolted to the footboard, then hook a spike tooth harrow behind the packer for smothing and you have as good a setup as for a drill with press wheels. And smother as well.



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Don-Wi

11-09-2007 11:11:29




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 Re: Grain Drill Questions in reply to Agman, 11-09-2007 08:52:38  
NO extra frame- The crushers hook onto a hitch that is bolted onto the supports for the platform on the back. Gotta have them hooked on right thoguh because if you turn short in the wrong direction repeatedly, you can wreck the platform and break the brackets that hold it on, then you gotta weld them up and replace the wood.

Donovan from Wisconsin



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Gerald J.

11-07-2007 21:27:09




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 Re: Grain Drill Questions in reply to mitchp, 11-07-2007 16:40:39  
The seed openings in the main box of a FB drill are mostly rectangular with rounded corners. I cut some blocks of wood about a half inch wider and a half inch longer than the hole, then cut a 1/4" deep rabet on all four sides. The square corners dug into the rounded corners and those blocks held very well. I was planting corn on 35" rows. It tended to crack a couple percent of the seed. Small flats were probably not the right seed.

Shop vac is the preferred clean out method, though you can use an air hose, and the mice will love to help you with whatever you miss.

I've calibrated the drill with just a handfull of seed over the seed opening. It can be hard to keep the seed just over the active openings when bouncing across the field though.

Gerald J.

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paul

11-07-2007 18:49:58




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 Re: Grain Drill Questions in reply to mitchp, 11-07-2007 16:40:39  
The grain drills are good for planting 8 or 10 acre fields. I'm not sure you would be happy with trying to use one for for tiny garden plots?

I plant turnips for the cattle - 4-10 acres in with the oats. It is the size of alfalfa seeds. I would not want to use a reagular grain drill - did it have the small seeding box for clover, alfalfa, etc.? Basically the small seed box is a tiny version of the big grain box.

Seeds from the small seed box typically are 'scatter seeded' by letting the seeds hit the ground, and get covered with the chains or a harrow. These seeds need to be so shallow that it is difficult to run them into the row openners. Tho, you can do so.

Cleanout is with a shopvac.

Just my opinion on it, maybe it would do what you want to do...

--->Paul

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mitchp

11-07-2007 20:49:06




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 Re: Grain Drill Questions in reply to paul, 11-07-2007 18:49:58  
Hey bob, do you by chance have a part # for those dividers? i have a little more than a garden plot, farm over 10 acres, most of my rows are 450 foot long, i use a push plater for the small seeds but thought this drill might be easier. i can plant other larger seeds with the JD 7000 planter. I don't think it had the small box on it, just the large one and one for fertilzer i think.



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Bob

11-08-2007 09:35:18




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 Re: Grain Drill Questions in reply to mitchp, 11-07-2007 20:49:06  
The ones I have are DEERE # M60725.

They fit MANY Deere drills, I can't say for absolutely SURE they'll fit yours, though.

Price now is about $2.00 each from Deere.



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Bob

11-07-2007 17:06:21




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 Re: Grain Drill Questions in reply to mitchp, 11-07-2007 16:40:39  
DEERE sells little snap-in plastic caps to cover the "runs" you don't need for planting in wider rows.

A shopvac works GREAT for sucking any leftover seed out of the hopper and feedcups.



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El Toro

11-07-2007 17:04:49




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 Re: Grain Drill Questions in reply to mitchp, 11-07-2007 16:40:39  
I plant all those vegetable seeds by hand after plowing and tilling the garden. I plant the beet seeds about 2.5" apart so you don't have to thin them. I plant about an 80 foot row and I have lots of beets. I plant green beans about 2" apart
in the row and I plant double rows about a foot apart. I plant barley for a cover crop and I just broadcast it over the garden by hand. Hal



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