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redgrizzly69

10-23-2007 21:07:28

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Well, I just bought a New Idea picker, model 325 with a 326 husking bed on it. Haven't used one since I was little. Any points or hints to make this work well? How many horsepower do I need to run this? Thanks.

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steveormary

10-25-2007 15:10:51

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Re: NI picker in reply to redgrizzly69, 10-23-2007 21:07:28

Dad bought a new TE20 Ferguson and soon after bought a Belle City 1 row cornpicker. Hitched a 60 bu. wagon to the picker. We seemed to get along ok unless we were in sandy ground. Then Dad put the F12 on the picker. As you can see not much horsepower here. Later we went to Woods Bros. pickers and pulled them with an 800 Ford or a SM.

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Blue Horse

10-25-2007 05:40:06

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Re: NI picker in reply to redgrizzly69, 10-23-2007 21:07:28

Relating to this topic, I recall the New Idea Model 300 two-row picker that my father bought in the fall of 1958. He pulled it with a Farmall Super H, and used flare boxes. The fall of 1968 was very wet, and so used a wide-front Farmall M that season. A pretty good machine for its' day, it seemed. We sold it and went to combining by 1979. I would have liked to try a Superpicker, what with all of its' improved features over the 300.

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paul

10-25-2007 11:03:45

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Re: NI picker in reply to Blue Horse, 10-25-2007 05:40:06

My 300 will handle dry trashy corn better than the super picker. The throat from the snappers likes to choke up on trash.

Need to sell off that 300, was keeping it for a backup, but, the 12 husking rolls on the Super do go down the field a lot faster in normal conditions. :)

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pork

10-24-2007 18:24:33

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Re: NI picker in reply to redgrizzly69, 10-23-2007 21:07:28

we used to have a 325 (i think) and am pretty sure i have the owners manual for it. ill look and if so send you a message. we pulled the 325 with a 674 ih and it had plenty of power in dry or frozen soil. if the gound was muddy, the 1955 oliver was used.

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Farmallb

10-24-2007 18:20:44

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Re: NI picker in reply to redgrizzly69, 10-23-2007 21:07:28

Talk about what it takes to pull it, My dad had a #24, 2 row mounted picker on a 48 H Farmall. I had a one row NI picker I pulled with a SC Case

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paul

10-24-2007 11:01:39

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Re: NI picker in reply to redgrizzly69, 10-23-2007 21:07:28

Hp will depend on how big a wagon you pull.... I put my Oliver Super 77 on my wide row NI with 12 roll, and it can"t quite pull it the way it should.

I use a 85 hp tractor with loaded tires, & that works real well. I suspect somewhere in between, like 60 hp, would be good, 50 might work if you are just playing. I pull 200 bu gravity boxes, tho of course they don"t get filled up.

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redgrizzly69

10-24-2007 06:23:09

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Re: NI picker in reply to redgrizzly69, 10-23-2007 21:07:28

The picker I bought is 2 row narrow, hydraulic cylinder for the snoots, and a nice long elevator. 8 row husking bed, but a couple of the fingers are missing on the husking wheels. I paid 500.00 for it, I think I did alright. Is there a site one can go to find out info about the picker, I"ve got the serial numbers but no manuals. Thanks

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mnjoe

10-24-2007 12:31:01

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Re: NI picker in reply to redgrizzly69, 10-24-2007 06:23:09

I found manuals on E-bay. You will find a nameplate on the husking unit and the gathering unit. Let us know what you have and we can give you the year of production. mnjoe

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redgrizzly69

10-24-2007 22:27:28

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Re: NI picker in reply to mnjoe, 10-24-2007 12:31:01

The 325 section has a serial number of 200972 with a lot number P-318 The husking bed is ser# 198479 with a lot number of P-312 Is there a site to find out info on year etc.? Are parts available or do I need to buy a parts machine also.

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James22

10-24-2007 09:20:40

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Re: NI picker in reply to redgrizzly69, 10-24-2007 06:23:09

The only negative is the 8 row husking bed. Could be the reason for the broken rubber fingers; ie, the bed was continuously overloaded. In higher yielding corn you will just need to go a little slower. Five hundred dollars was a decent price.

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tim[in]

10-24-2007 01:42:31

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Re: NI picker in reply to redgrizzly69, 10-23-2007 21:07:28

The 324 is a 2 row wide. the 325 is a 2 row narrow . The 323 is a 1 row. The above pickers are all the latest models called superpickers by new idea. what super picker were and are is what should have been done on corn pickers decades earlier. They changed the angle of the snapping rolls so they wouldnt shell so much corn in the row as the old style did for one thing. Another is fewer grease zirks,longer elevators for loading the trailing wagons. Optional hydraulic cylinders for raising the gathering head,higher speed fans for removing silks and husks, Better husking beds and overall simplification of parts and fewer of them.The older ones almost looked rube goldbergish. But i loved my old one row which is the same model my granfather used on our hilly litte farm behind his ford 8n.But the newer picker [325] i bought paid for itself in a year or two on shelled cor savings. Also a one row will pick aproximately 2/3 the capacity of the 2 row. At least thats what my dealer told me before he retired.

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georgeky

10-24-2007 22:04:32

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Re: NI picker in reply to tim[in], 10-24-2007 01:42:31

I agree with most of what you said, except for the 2/3 capacity. The 2 row will pick 3 times as much as a 1 row. Right off it is twice as fast as it picks 2 rows. You also gain a bunch more on half as much turning, so no way will a 1 row pick 2/3rds as much as a 2 row.

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Tim(nj)

10-26-2007 10:56:52

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Re: NI picker in reply to georgeky, 10-24-2007 22:04:32

I dunno George, the 323 had 6 rollers for one row, and I could pull it through 150 bu. corn at twice the speed of the 324 with the 8-roller bed on it, so it wasn't doubling my productivity. The 324 I have now with the 327 12-roller bed, that one truly doubles it, can pull it just has fast as I could the 323 and do a good job without plugging.

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Mr. Bob

10-24-2007 06:03:11

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Re: NI picker in reply to tim[in], 10-24-2007 01:42:31

When my dad sold out his farm, the last picker he had was a NI #10 one row. We pulled and operated this with a low profile MF 65 tractor, ballasted with calcium and wheel weights. We used an 8x16 wagon behind. This made an excellent combination on the hilly e/se Ohio hills. Only problem was that I was the one who got to shovel the corn off into the elevator and grease what seemed like a hundred or so grease zerks. This machine shelled very little corn and did an excellent job of husking.

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mark

10-24-2007 05:02:10

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Re: NI picker in reply to tim[in], 10-24-2007 01:42:31

tim,

Are any of these pickers still in production? If not, when did they quit making them? I was talking to a neighbor awhile back and he said his 323 would shell some corn too and sometimes it wouldn't husk the best.

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georgeky

10-23-2007 22:40:17

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Re: NI picker in reply to redgrizzly69, 10-23-2007 21:07:28

They are good pickers. I have picked lots of corn with a Farmall M and 2 row picker. I think any tractor 50 HP or larger will be OK on it. Have pulled my 324 for years with a 584 IH(52 hp). A good manual for it is a good investment.

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mark

10-23-2007 23:27:24

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Re: NI picker in reply to georgeky, 10-23-2007 22:40:17

george,

what's the difference between the 323, 324, 325 and any other model one row NI made? I assume all the above are one row machines.

I know where is sitting, don't know if it's worth more than scrap by now, but thought I'd ask if could be bought.

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georgeky

10-24-2007 21:58:42

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Re: NI picker in reply to mark, 10-23-2007 23:27:24

Hi Mark. The 323 is a one row machine. The 324 is a two row for wide rows. The 325 is a two row for narrow rows. I don't know if they still make them for sale in other countries or not, but have not been available new in the US since around 1983. I think they were built for sale in Canada and other countries after 83, but not sure.

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