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newbie haymaker

10-18-2007 08:52:37




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I have a guy offering to let me roll corn stalks off of his fields. What are the pros and cons with rolling and feeding corn stalks, nutritional value? I will be rolling with a vermeer 605 f with 62 horse 4 wd. Thanks for any input


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paul

10-19-2007 18:52:02




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 Re: rolling corn stalks in reply to newbie haymaker, 10-18-2007 08:52:37  
Have new pickup fingers in the pickup, have leather gloves along to pick out the plug-ups that form in the corners of the pickup, and have a _lot_ of patience. A _lot_.

Make small windrows. You will be driving slow.

You will learn or make up new words.

I make 10-20 bales a year with my F.

As far as feeding, cattle love 'em. Works well for feed. I put out a bale of alfalfa & a bale of stalks. They clean up 1/2 the stalks first....

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Lee in Iowa

10-19-2007 20:40:19




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 Re: rolling corn stalks in reply to paul, 10-19-2007 18:52:02  
Paul check my post on how to stop the plug ups in the corners of the pickup. Lee



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paul

10-19-2007 22:39:40




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 Re: rolling corn stalks in reply to Lee in Iowa, 10-19-2007 20:40:19  
I heard there was a stalk option for the F, but was told they weren't available any more. Sounds like that is what you have? Cool. I'm sure it makes quite a difference. The teeth are easy; wonder if it's possible to make a filler to make a wider band somehow....

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pork

10-19-2007 18:05:47




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 Re: rolling corn stalks in reply to newbie haymaker, 10-18-2007 08:52:37  
rolled up 200 with a 457 jd silage special. rolled wet the same day as we shelled and wrapped in plastic for some cheep silage. not much else round here. people are rolling up soy bean stubble too. ive heard its not worth the time though.



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Formerly PaMike

10-19-2007 09:35:46




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 Re: rolling corn stalks in reply to newbie haymaker, 10-18-2007 08:52:37  
You might want a dust mask if you dont have a cab tractor. If its dry the dust gets that bad it can choke you. Also, keep the stalks spread out till you are ready to bale, then rake. Stalks in a windrow are real hard to get dry once they get rained on...Trust me....



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Lee in Iowa

10-18-2007 20:36:46




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 Re: rolling corn stalks in reply to newbie haymaker, 10-18-2007 08:52:37  
I made quite a few with a 605 F, you need to take off the two outside pickup bands and the outside rows of pickup teeth and replace them with ones that have had the outside one of the two teeth removed and then put on wider pickup bands that fit tight to the sides. The vermeer dealer told me to do this and I always did, a neighbor that didn't do it had a lot of trouble. If I have two rows of stalks next to each other that the combine wheel knocked flat I just rake with the wheel rake and lay the windrow where the stalks were laid flat, like this better more shucks and leaves, less stalks. If there are no down rows I pull the rake behind a stalk shredder. This year I'm going to try narrowing the wide front to mash down the rows on either side of the one down row from the combine and just rake. I don't like stalks sticking up where the pickup runs. It is a dirty job you want a cab, and you want the stalks dry, moldy stalk bales can kill cattle. I like to have some around to supplement hay if the snow gets deep and the cows can't graze stalk fields and to bed the calves in the yard. I have also tub ground stalks with the hay to stretch it, works good with ethanol byproducts, some of the big feedlots around here feed very little hay. As far as covering them with plastic and treating with anhydrous, I've never done it, but according to what I've read it only works good in warm weather. Lee ps I've got a JD baler now so I've got the extra stuff to set up a vermeer if you need it I'll try to leave my email open not sure i know how.

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RLH

10-18-2007 17:01:25




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 Re: rolling corn stalks in reply to newbie haymaker, 10-18-2007 08:52:37  
I bailed some with JD510 cows are eating them Ive heard its a good idea to put molasses on them so today I mixed 2qt with 2gal water turned bale on its side and poured it on at dark cows were going after them has any body else tried this



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low budget

10-19-2007 03:43:52




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 Re: rolling corn stalks in reply to RLH, 10-18-2007 17:01:25  
Round baled some over mature hay (September 1st cutting) for heifers one year. Plenty of Golden rod and weeds in it. Set them on end to feed and poured 4 gallons of Mol-Mix on each of them. Its a molasses based feed with Urea added. Heifers loved it and did well on it.



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JM in Merit

10-18-2007 15:30:58




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 Re: rolling corn stalks in reply to newbie haymaker, 10-18-2007 08:52:37  
Baled a bunch last year and feed to cows. Cows did ok on them.
Baled mine with 605K not sure how the 605F will do. Corn Stalks are hard on a baler, but if you need the hay go for it. I will bale them again if I need the hay.



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msb

10-18-2007 15:07:49




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 Re: rolling corn stalks in reply to newbie haymaker, 10-18-2007 08:52:37  
You can roll them up, bag them and then inject them with anhydrous ammonia to greatly increase the nutrional value of the stalks.



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lincolnj

10-18-2007 13:00:03




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 Re: rolling corn stalks in reply to newbie haymaker, 10-18-2007 08:52:37  
Cornstalks have about 30% as much nutritional value as hay. They do a good job of providing ruffage needed to keep ruminents going when critters are getting a lot of their minerals and nutrients from other sources. They also make great bedding.



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Allan In NE

10-18-2007 11:33:48




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 Re: rolling corn stalks in reply to newbie haymaker, 10-18-2007 08:52:37  
Don't know how they'd be baled up, but around here, corn stalks are a high dollar item.

Folks fence 'me off and turn the cows in oftentimes getting as much as two months worth of pasture.

Bonus is that it stops the next years volunteer corn in the beans dead cold. Those old cows will lick 'er right down to the dirt.

Allan



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jburgfarmer

10-18-2007 09:44:06




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 Re: rolling corn stalks in reply to newbie haymaker, 10-18-2007 08:52:37  
We have baled over 200 acres of stalks this year. We were lucky to find a guy who had pretty poor corn, the field had a lot of green stuff, fox tail, jonson grass ect. We will baling more soon as the rain quits. not the best feed, but if fed with good hay, you can extend your hay supply. Corn stalks can be hard to bale. We mow with a rotary sythe, rake, and bale with a NH BR740A Round baler. I hope you have a cab, stalks are dusty and dirty. Goood Luck

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georgeky

10-18-2007 09:36:08




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 Re: rolling corn stalks in reply to newbie haymaker, 10-18-2007 08:52:37  
Barely beats a snow ball. Very little feed value to dried up stalks.



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El Toro

10-18-2007 14:57:53




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 Re: rolling corn stalks in reply to georgeky, 10-18-2007 09:36:08  
We shredded the stalks for bedding when straw was getting low. A pitchfork went through the cutter
once sure did a number on it. Had to send it to a dealer for repair. Hal



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El Toro

10-19-2007 03:49:34




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 Re: rolling corn stalks in reply to El Toro, 10-18-2007 14:57:53  
The Papec cutter!



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Uncle Ernie

10-19-2007 03:30:31




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 Re: rolling corn stalks in reply to El Toro, 10-18-2007 14:57:53  
You have a dealer that will fix pitchforks???LOL!!



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Tim(nj)

10-18-2007 10:43:34




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 Re: rolling corn stalks in reply to georgeky, 10-18-2007 09:36:08  
Typical use for them around here was to give the cows something to chew on while they were being fed corn gluten, brewers grain and other by-product feeds when hay was scarce.



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georgeky

10-18-2007 10:53:05




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 Re: rolling corn stalks in reply to Tim(nj), 10-18-2007 10:43:34  
We use them too, when short on other feed, just not to good. That is why I went back to filling my silo. Don't need much hay when feeding silage. Get to use all the cob and fodder.



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