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DumbDumb

10-04-2007 11:11:08




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I am looking for a decent used 10ft wheel disc. What should one expect to pay for something like that? Realizing a real nice one is more than a fixer upper, lets think useable class. I have a 1600 oliver to work with around 50 horse. Any help appreciated. Thanks DD




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tim[in]

10-07-2007 07:15:55




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 Re: Wheel disc 10ft in reply to DumbDumb, 10-04-2007 11:11:08  
Look for consignment auctions too! at estate sales ,everyone pays higher prices usually. Same with going out of business sales. Everyone figures they might not have taken good care of equipment if they are getting out or went broke and like consignment sales you can get stuff cheap . Also waiting till sale is almost over when everyone goes home to feed you can get good deals because the jockeys wont bid it up past their make money point on it.usually a 10 ' kewanee,[a popular brand around here] goes for $400.oo.They were a great brand and there should be parts available for them in shoups and other catalogs.They also made great elevators and augers.

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MF Poor

10-05-2007 04:57:05




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 Re: Wheel disc 10ft in reply to DumbDumb, 10-04-2007 11:11:08  
A GOOD one, expect $900 to $1200 (for a fair deal) You'll find them priced higher than that too. If you aren't in a rush, just wait and you'll run on to a decent deal.

I personally like what IH built as far as wheel disc's go. Parts available still. My current wheel disc is an IH #370. Very solid and does a great job. I've owned a couple Deere disc's and wasn't at all pleased with their results. (Ridging, don't tow well.)

With anything used, you're shopping for the condition NOW rather than what was the best way back when.

8' to 10'ers still sell fairly good around here. Bigger widths sell cheaper usually.

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RayP(MI)

10-04-2007 17:16:37




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 Re: Wheel disc 10ft in reply to DumbDumb, 10-04-2007 11:11:08  
Friend of mine got another larger disk at auction. His nice 10" Deere sits in the yard with a $500 price on it.



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dweitzel

10-04-2007 14:56:25




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 Re: Wheel disc 10ft in reply to DumbDumb, 10-04-2007 11:11:08  
I bought a 10' JD KBA disk harrow on ebay for $450, after taking it apart and purchasing some new bearings/bolts/misc, probably have about $850 in it and a couple of weeks painting and the like.

Just came in from the field from using it. Trying to aerate the hay field to get it ready for next year.

Make sure like others have said that you can get the bearings/pivot castings if it has them. One sitting in a fence row can almost be assured of needing some parts replaced. Nit fun or cost advantageous to try and have parts custom made.

My wheel disk is a 1954 and Deere still sells the parts.

Got lucky and found an Amish man up in PA that works on my model disk. Had all the parts in stock . I'd post a picture if I knew how.

My 36HP diesel pulls the disk harrow fine. I'd be way under powered for a turning disk. JMHO

Dave

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glennster

10-04-2007 14:36:56




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 Re: Wheel disc 10ft in reply to DumbDumb, 10-04-2007 11:11:08  
whatever disk you get, be sure you can get parts for it. may be worth ordering a catalog from someone like shoups , they sell replacement parts for ag equipment. take it with you when you look at a disk. see if they have bearings, disk blades, hubs ect available. if so, then at least when something breaks you can get parts for it.



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DumbDumb

10-04-2007 14:35:16




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 Re: Wheel disc 10ft in reply to DumbDumb, 10-04-2007 11:11:08  
I am seeing what some of you say. I live in a basin area where they grow big. Push out the fence rows and add center pivots and farm big time. A new 6' 3 point brought 550 at a action a month ago but I thought I wanted a heavy wheel disc. I ended up buying a cultipacker from the guy that bought the disc and he only bought it for resale at 650.00 He's a good guy, he sold me a 8' cultipacker horse drawn type for $50.00, needs a tongue. But he had no disc. A year ago I looked at a local junky guys 180 allis and he told me if I wanted a disc he had several "old wheel disc for a couple hundred. I guess the market is in the location. Wish I had the time to pick up some of our small discs and use for trading stock to you guys for other equipment I need. Our local schools bus mechanic said he cut up a petty good old allis last summer for scrap. The going for a drive with the misses is good advice, as is the being prepared to spend some bucks on it after it comes home. Good advice is always appreciated. And as you can tell by my stagename I need all the advice and help I can get. Maybe after church we can go for a sunday drive with the kiddo's and see what shakes out. Thank you again for all the help. DumbDumb

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RodInNS

10-04-2007 14:04:36




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 Re: Wheel disc 10ft in reply to DumbDumb, 10-04-2007 11:11:08  
Ya know.... I don't think there's such a thing as a 'good used disc'. There's disc's that look good... there's disc's that don't look all that worn, and there's disc's that look like junk... The operative word here is 'look'.
My advice to you is to find the cheapest most complete looking beater you can find. Narrow them down to units that have a good frame and a good cylinder. Beyond that I would take it home and tear it apart. I'd go with all new plates ad bearings front and rear. I'd have a very hard look at the gang bolts too, and I'd probably just replace the front ones as a matter of practice. The rear ones don't take quite so much abuse. It'll take you a day to go through it and put it all back together, but when you're done you'll have a new disc that's ready to go to work instead of an expensive disc that's sitting in front of the shop.
I can absolutely guarntee you that you can buy one of those 3-4 grand discs and you'll be fixing it within the week if you have any amoujnt of work to do with it. This is more true if you have rocky ground, and expecially true if the disc spent it's life in rocky ground.
Believe me, I've been down the road of the 3 grand hardly used disc. Got another 3 in it now, so you might as well buy the piece of junk for nothing and put the 3 grand into that...

If at all possible look for a disc with a modern long flotation hitch and spring/shock flex gang hangers. Those two items will go a long long way to preserving the life of the disc and lessening the problems if you have rocky ground. Good luck.

Rod

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Dave H (MI)

10-04-2007 13:05:40




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 Re: Wheel disc 10ft in reply to DumbDumb, 10-04-2007 11:11:08  
If you hang around the auctions long enough and are patient chances are you will find something. Years ago I wanted a 3 pt cultivator and I bid on a lot of them, usually at the same guys auctions. I kept dropping out at $100 and the auctioneer was getting really ticked off at me. Told me I would NEVER find one for less than $100.
Bought a really nice one for $40 bucks a month later...different auctioneer.

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BobinKY

10-04-2007 11:42:22




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 Re: Wheel disc 10ft in reply to DumbDumb, 10-04-2007 11:11:08  
I see them all the time sitting in guys fields going to rot. Wouldn't hurt to take the misses for a ride in the country and knock on some doors. You might just sneak up on one. Hard telling what else you might find. I bought mine from a used impliment dealer here who sprayed some orange paint on it and charged me 1200. I did get a new cylinder in the deal.



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georgeky

10-04-2007 11:35:43




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 Re: Wheel disc 10ft in reply to DumbDumb, 10-04-2007 11:11:08  
You should be able to find a good IH 10 foot disc from 800 to 1200. Look on ebay, couple sets there now.



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soundguy

10-04-2007 11:17:50




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 Re: Wheel disc 10ft in reply to DumbDumb, 10-04-2007 11:11:08  
I see em in the local trader paper all the time..form 2000-4000 and up

Soundguy



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Wow, I'm poor.

10-04-2007 11:47:48




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 Re: Wheel disc 10ft in reply to soundguy, 10-04-2007 11:17:50  
I had asked a couple local guys and they said, "they ain't got no value anymore, too small. Most are cut up and hualed away for scrap." I took that as a user class might be bought for 500.oo or so. Trying to pick up some older equipment to work on 80 acres I bought a year ago. I appreciate the response just still trying to wrap my head around the price. Ouch.



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georgeky

10-04-2007 12:03:17




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 Re: Wheel disc 10ft in reply to Wow, I'm poor., 10-04-2007 11:47:48  
Depends on where they are. Out west in big grain country they are cheap, but in the south were folks use lots of 40,50,60 HP tractors they are still quite popular. Even see lots of folks here pulling 10 footers with 100+ HP tractors. To many gates to go through.



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soundguy

10-04-2007 11:52:20




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 Re: Wheel disc 10ft in reply to Wow, I'm poor., 10-04-2007 11:47:48  
500$ won't even get you a ne 6' disc. I do however see used 6' disc go inthe 250-150$ range.

For the larger disc, you start to see a price break on the use dmodels that are really large.. like 12+ feet, that take 90+ hp to pull.. I've seen 15 and 12' disc go for as little as 10 and 8' disc.. or even less due to their size.

Good luck.. look thru the trader mag.. every not and then a guy has one he just wants to get off his property. i have seen them as low as 1500$.. but not very often.. perhaps 1/year..e tc..

Soundguy

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55 50

10-05-2007 07:34:09




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 Re: Wheel disc 10ft in reply to soundguy, 10-04-2007 11:52:20  
curious as to where you are. 90 HP to pull a 12 ft disc? That can"t be a normal tandem disc. Must be an offset. I wonder if everyone responding here is on the "same page".



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soundguy

10-05-2007 13:07:35




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 Re: Wheel disc 10ft in reply to 55 50, 10-05-2007 07:34:09  
All depends on soil type and disc construction. too many variables to list every single option out.. we'd need a 'web book'.. not a 'web page'.. etc.

I assume, as most people do here.. we are all just bouncing 'what-if' ideas out onto the court.. etc.

soundguy



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mark

10-04-2007 12:54:05




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 Re: Wheel disc 10ft in reply to soundguy, 10-04-2007 11:52:20  
I bought a decent Ford 10 footer last year for $200. It had a cylinder on it too. Does a fine job but needs paint...but..so what!

I live in KY and went north 100 miles into Ohio where those guys think an 80 horse tractor is just fit for chores! If you find a 4 row corn planter up there..they'll almost give it you to get it out of their way. I bought an old JD 494 that looked like new..always shedded and was told it had 'only' planted 600 acres! Cost me $300. I asked the seller what he planted corn with...he told me a Kinze 42 row planter!!!!! ! Of course, when you put in 6000 acres....you need that size equipment. Nice 3 bottom plows can be had for $200 or less. So...go shopping where small equipment is the left overs from years gone by and you can save some major bucks.

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soundguy

10-04-2007 20:43:49




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 Re: Wheel disc 10ft in reply to mark, 10-04-2007 12:54:05  
No arguments there. Wish i could find some good deals like that around here!!

soundguy



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mark

10-04-2007 22:16:01




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 Re: Wheel disc 10ft in reply to soundguy, 10-04-2007 20:43:49  
soundguy,

Look on ebay for ohiolandcompany...that's what the guy goes by. I seen somebody give Jeff a bad rap here..maybe a year or so ago. He has been a straight shooter with me and god knows, he owes me nothing. I had bought some stuff by bid on ebay and drove up to get it. While there I began to snoop through his other stuff and that's how I got my 10 ft Ford disc and 494 planter. His dad goes to the local auctions and buys this stuff up...they're making money and I saved major dollars over what it can be bought for down here in KY. I seen that Ford disc sitting there and said...how much to load that on the trailer? he looked at me and grinned and said.."Oh how about a couple hundred dollars?" It got put on in a hurry. he said....you need a nice 'little' corn planter? that's how I got the 494. I'll bet he had less than $200 in it. Those folks know where this stuff is and buy lots of it for not much over scrap value. I don't care about that because, A: I don't know where it is. And, B: I can't touch it for that kind of money where I live. Therefore, everybody comes out ahead.

I went up there to pick up a set of Dearborn 2-14" plows I got on ebay...for $78. I drove over to one of his neighbors and bought a Ward's 14" hammermill on a factory cart, in perfect working order for $200.

This stuff is meaningless to those big farmers...he called a set of 3-14" Ford 101's I got off him 'garden plows'! They cost me $190 and he gave me 3 new points for them. Best plows I ever pulled. This guy i buy from isn't the only person selling this stuff...you just have to find them wherever you are.

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soundguy

10-05-2007 12:47:55




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 Re: Wheel disc 10ft in reply to mark, 10-04-2007 22:16:01  
Now I need a new keyboard after drueling all over mine!

great deals.

glad you and everybody made out.

soundguy



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