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baler problem - bales sticking together

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Ed Apeman

09-30-2007 19:40:20




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I recently bought a Massey 12 baler for baling straw.

The baler had not been used for a few years. I used it to bale about 1000 flax straw bales with little problem. I did break a couple of shear pins, but I assumed this was due to the excess play in the flywheel. I intend on replacing bushings to correct this problem.

Changing fields, the shear pin issue became progressively worse. I would break 3 or 4 every 100 bales. I did notice that the plunger was getting tighter and was becoming difficult to roll over by hand.

I poured some used oil on the rails and it freed up. The shear pin issue virtualy disappeared.

Now I am having problems with the knife not cutting the last section of the bale, causing 2 or more bales to come out together. This is happening about 3 out of 5 bales. (a major problem as it drags bales, breaks bales, and makes it a major hassle to pick with a bale wagon)

I did inspect the knives, they seem to be relatively sharp. There seems to be about a 1/4' gap between the knife on the plunger and the fixed knife - is that too much? If so, is there any way to adjust this on a Massey 12?

Sorry for the long post! And advice would be greatly appreciated!

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Rexalot

10-01-2007 08:28:24




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 Re: baler problem - bales sticking together in reply to Ed Apeman, 09-30-2007 19:40:20  
Adjust the knife clearance... 1/4 inch is 3 times to much. 1/32 inch would be more like it.



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Animal

10-01-2007 07:00:36




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 Re: baler problem - bales sticking together in reply to Ed Apeman, 09-30-2007 19:40:20  
the manual calls for.030



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unioncreek

10-01-2007 06:24:49




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 Re: baler problem - bales sticking together in reply to Ed Apeman, 09-30-2007 19:40:20  
You need to adjust the plunger knives. I know on my IH that they need a .025 gap to work good.

Bobg



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kyhayman

09-30-2007 21:14:19




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 Re: baler problem - bales sticking together in reply to Ed Apeman, 09-30-2007 19:40:20  
Pure speculation here since I know nothing of a massey but on a deere .25 inches is way way too much knife clearence. Esp in stemmy hay like straw (or timothy). Mine are at .088 clearence and I have some of this problem in timothy, mine can be shimmed closer. Normally I like .040 but mine have a lot of wear going on and I havent cared to climb in and shim. At about .025 you have to worry about knife lock from the natural play in the rails.

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jwal10

09-30-2007 19:56:44




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 Re: baler problem - bales sticking together in reply to Ed Apeman, 09-30-2007 19:40:20  
Is the hay not cut on the knife side and that is the side that has the hay folded over and not cut that is holding the 2 bales together? Sounds like a bearing or wear block was going out and letting the plunger move away from the fixed knife. I don't know if a MF has bearings or wear blocks. Also check the springs on the hay blocks that hold the hay in the chamber to see if they are letting the hay move forward when the plunger is ahead and the needles are up tying a bale. The needles may be entering a flake of hay not at the end of a flake so the needles aren't seperating at the 2 flakes....James

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