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wally b

09-18-2007 17:24:28




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I have a killifer JD chisel plow. Are they used in place of regular mold boards? How far apart should the chisels be?

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wally b

09-20-2007 18:27:12




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 Re: chisel plow in reply to wally b, 09-18-2007 17:24:28  
I am located in oregon. Thanks for the replys.

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Leroy

09-20-2007 03:51:14




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 Re: chisel plow in reply to wally b, 09-18-2007 17:24:28  
The Killfer unit is a very heavy duty type unit and would be for the foot or more deep type tillage and so for that type and depth the shanks would be 12" to 15" apart, any less would plug. The standard chisel plows were 12" spacing and the disc chisel are 15" spacing. The other poster that mentioned 3" spacing I have no idea what he is talking about because even a field cultivator the shanks are depending on make and model either 6" or 7" apart For having the Killfer name are you close to California as Kilfer was a west coast company and very selden shiped east of the rocky mountains? Yes they were used inplace of a moldboard plow. And depending on soil type minimum of 10 HP per shank to 20 HP per shank to get any depth that you need for them to work. If you would normally plow 7" deep figure 10-11", 8" figure 12" or about 1 1/2 times moldboard depth for a chisel shank. And the groung has to be dry enough for the shand to fracture the ground all the way to the next shank. I see so many around here try to chisel too wet and they just end up with no fracturing of the ground but just mashing a grove where each shank went and if we do not have enough hard freezes to undo the damage they have done with that chisel they have extra hard ground in spring instead of mellow like it should be. Twisted shovels cover more trash but around here the goverment wants the smaller straight shovels to be used to leave more trash on top of field. This is Ohio.

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paul

09-19-2007 18:53:39




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 Re: chisel plow in reply to wally b, 09-18-2007 17:24:28  
I'm with John on this. Chisel plows are meant for deep tillage, 15-30 hp per point, go a foot or so deep, and end up spaced 12-15 inches apart. They replace a plow, ripping the soil deep but not exposing as much black dirt to erosion.

In some regions a field cultivator gets called a chisel plow, these are lighter impliments that are spaced 5-7 inches apart with duck foot shovels on them, to finish the soil prep right before the planter. (Instead of a disk (aka disk-harrow).) That might be what the other fellow described.

Not sure which machine you have.....

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johns48jdb

09-19-2007 02:31:06




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 Re: chisel plow in reply to wally b, 09-18-2007 17:24:28  
here in n al the points that are used are about three inches wide and are spaced about a foot apart. if you get them to close together they will drag up and make one heck of a mess. chiesel plows aren't meant to completely distrube all the dirt. they are meant to cover the reside thats there to keep it from washing off in the winter time as much as any thing. in the spring they don't use them or a turning plow any more. nearly every body no tills. the one guy who did chiesel plow this spring has the best looking crops around after a real dry summer.

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backwoodsfarm

09-18-2007 18:19:07




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 Re: chisel plow in reply to wally b, 09-18-2007 17:24:28  
Hi Wally- We use a chisel plow to rip up the corn fields after they are cut. This opens up the soil so we can spread manure and get it in there before the ground freezes and the snow flies. Our chisel shanks are very close together, maybe 3 inches. We then spread manure as soon as we can on the fields in the spring, let it sit until mid May, roll it over with the 5 bottom plow, harrow, level and then plant corn!

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