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How to tell what Model John Deere Van Brundt Grain Drill

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Nathan in Texas

09-14-2007 14:24:48




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I just bought an old John Deere Van Brundt grain drill. It has 16 rows on 10" spacing. It has a gray steel box to hold the grain. You have to manually move the discs up or down.

I"m trying to figure out what model it is so I can then try to figure out what settings I should set it on for planting some winter wheat.

Any particular features to look for to identify it? If I took a picture would it be easy to figure out?

I think I got a pretty good deal on it for $250 and it seems like everything is in working condition. It was missing a disc and I took it by a place that sells old used equipment and they sold and installed the disc for $20 and I think it could be considered "field ready" now. I asked him about the settings and he said that it was already set for wheat but I'm not 100% sure he knew what he was talking about but he does seem to know a lot about that old equipment. He did say that I got a really good deal on it for $250.

One other question is how sharp of a turn can those old drills handle when they are engaged? The guy who sold it made it sound like you just leave it engaged the whole time and make sweeping turns at the corners and you"re fine. It would be a hassle to have to stop and disengage then engage the drill at the end of every row though. I'm going to try to use it to plant about 16 acres in a week or two.

Thanks in advance for any input or suggestions.

Nathan

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Gerald J.

09-15-2007 08:13:09




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 Re: How to tell what Model John Deere Van Brundt Grain Drill in reply to Nathan in Texas, 09-14-2007 14:24:48  
The chart is just a start, sometimes not all that close. But you can calibrate it as close as you wish. Helps to have a sensitive scale.

For mine, I jacked up one wheel, and put seed over one tube. I measured the circumference of that wheel, put a paper sack under the seed tube, turned the drill to plant and turned that wheel ten turns. Then I weighed the seed and from the distance and the drill spacing I figured out the rate per acre.

Some would fill it with seed and in the barn, pull it over a canvas for a measured distance to increase the amount of seed to be sampled. Good sharp opening disks might shred the canvas too.

That was quite a while ago (20 years) and then the manual from Deere was a whopping $2.85. They charge more today but almost surely have the manual to copy. Drill and implement manuals are not popular items at tractor shows and flea markets but sometimes the used manual dealers will have one. I saw a couple yesterday at Forest City, Iowa, but I don't remember seeing a DR drill. But then I was looking for a Case plow book.

You won't want a row unit to back up because that tends to plug it, so you don't want to turn sharper than pivoting on the inside tire.

Gerald J.

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Sid

09-14-2007 18:14:28




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 Re: How to tell what Model John Deere Van Brundt Grain Drill in reply to Nathan in Texas, 09-14-2007 14:24:48  
For drilling without a chart, I adjust the setting so at least two seed can come out at the same time. It ain't computor accuratem but with a little trial and error, it gets the pounds to the acre that I want. As for turning around at the ends with a end wheel drill I just make a sharp U turn and go back to the other end of the field.



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Nathan in Texas

09-14-2007 15:30:04




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 Re: How to tell what Model John Deere Van Brundt Grain Drill in reply to Nathan in Texas, 09-14-2007 14:24:48  
[quote:3496776801]End wheel drill. or press drill? Post a photo, and likely SOMEONE will recognize it.[/quote:3496776801]

I don't know the difference between and end wheel or press drill. It has the chutes running down behind the discs and then a little chain with 3 rings that drag behind it to cover up the seed. It is missing a few of the rings, do I need to add some to make sure it gets covered up?

I'll try to take a picture and post it tomorrow. It is sitting on it's back on my trailer right now and I don't plan on unloading it until I get it hauled down to my property next week. I'm hoping my tractor will be strong enough to lift it off the trailer, it looks pretty heavy.

[quote:3496776801]the drills were made to go around the field till you get to the center then sow the corners out. Not for going back and forth like a corn planter. So you do have to just set the depth when you start and leave it until you are done.[/quote:3496776801]

Very good to hear this! I was dreading the possibility of having to stop at the end of each row and manually engage and disengage it.

[quote:3496776801]Look inside the grain box lids. There is usually a chart giving the settings for various grains.[/quote:3496776801]

The chart in the grain box lid is pretty much unreadable.
Thanks for the quick input, I'll try to get a photo posted ASAP.

Nathan

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Bob

09-14-2007 17:05:43




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 Re: How to tell what Model John Deere Van Brundt Grain Drill in reply to Nathan in Texas, 09-14-2007 15:30:04  
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("End-wheel drill".)

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(Press drill, unfortunately the "wrong" color.)



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Roger in Iowa

09-14-2007 15:01:45




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 Re: How to tell what Model John Deere Van Brundt Grain Drill in reply to Nathan in Texas, 09-14-2007 14:24:48  
Look inside the grain box lids. There is usually a chart giving the settings for various grains.

Roger in Iowa



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Leroy

09-14-2007 14:56:41




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 Re: How to tell what Model John Deere Van Brundt Grain Drill in reply to Nathan in Texas, 09-14-2007 14:24:48  
Model I have no idea but the drills were made to go around the field till you get to the center then sow the corners out. Not for going back and forth like a corn planter. So you do have to just set the depth when you start and leave it untill you are done.



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Bob

09-14-2007 14:43:15




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 Re: How to tell what Model John Deere Van Brundt Grain Drill in reply to Nathan in Texas, 09-14-2007 14:24:48  
End wheel drill. or press drill?

Post a photo, and likely SOMEONE will recognize it.

Some of them had brass tags, too, IIRC, at one end of the hopper.



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Nathan in Texas

09-14-2007 18:47:06




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 Re: How to tell what Model John Deere Van Brundt Grain Drill in reply to Bob, 09-14-2007 14:43:15  

Bob said: (quoted from post at 14:43:15 09/14/07) Some of them had brass tags, too, IIRC, at one end of the hopper.


Well what do you know! It has a tag on the end - John Deere model DR, serial number 5803!

It is an end wheel drill. The quality of the pictures isn't very good but you should get a good idea. (I took them with my phone)

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Allan In NE

09-15-2007 04:52:56




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 Re: How to tell what Model John Deere Van Brundt Grain Drill in reply to Nathan in Texas, 09-14-2007 18:47:06  
I agree with the man, the drill is probably already set.

However, here are the settings for a DR-A, which should be roughly the same:

Use the large side of the feed cup (inside the tank/opening to the right), set the little fingers down on the right side of the tube feed to 14-16 (which is the fouth notch down from the top). Set the slide on the speed cluster gear (front of machine/one on each side) to the "1" (outer) notch. If it also has a double speed-change gear at the outer wheel drive, set it to the "slow" position.

This should give you about 55 to 56 lbs per acre.

Allan

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Terry Beeson

09-17-2007 14:52:56




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 Manual for DR/A drill in reply to Allan In NE, 09-15-2007 04:52:56  
Do you have a manual for this drill including planting charts?

Thanks



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