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scott#2

08-31-2007 18:40:56




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Hell Everyone,

I have a few horse stables around me that have free horse manure and I figured I'd use it to perk up some fields, just a few acres. I was wondering what models and manufactures you all use and which ones to stay away from. I like the old stuff and dont mind putting in a little work, if it's reliable and wont drive me to the poor house to keep it going over the long haul. I only need a unit big enough to spread a few acres and I have a ford 3000 and Super A's. I would like to stay in the 500-1000 $ range. Which ground driven ones do you all like?

Also, I was wondering what your experiences are with spreading manure with the different types of bedding mixed in that usually comes along with the manure, straw, peanut shells, chips, etc. And how about that undigested grain, weed problems?

Just keeping my eyes open,

Thank You,

scott#2

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Bret4207

09-03-2007 05:31:37




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 Re: Manure Spreaders in reply to scott#2, 08-31-2007 18:40:56  
New Idea type spreaders are still manufactuered by the Amish under the "Better Idea" name and a couple others. Check Rural Heritage magazine or Small Farmers Journal for info. The best shredding spreader I used was an IH 200 ground drive. Unfortunately it uses a type "S" apron chain, not the "67H" that modern stuff uses. It had a double shredder and auger type widespread. Really made the pack fine by the time it hit the ground. I understand New Holland had an auxiliary shredder unit that could be purchased. I've only ever seen 1 and that was dealers rig, so I don't know if they're still available.

A pto spreader really is easier to use than a ground drive.

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Edd in KY

09-02-2007 17:57:28




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 Re: Manure Spreaders in reply to scott#2, 08-31-2007 18:40:56  
I'm in the horse business. All my spreader is used only for is horses. Ground spreaders are fine in nice dry weather when you can drive our on the fields. But horse stalls need to be cleaned every day and in the spring when the mud is axle deep, you can't drive across the fields. You'll need to pile it somewhere. So plan a bad weather dumping spot. You can't let the horses stand in muck like a cow, or you will have thrush so bad you'll never get it cured. Buy a PTO spreader. You will be glad you did.

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scott#2

09-02-2007 17:20:45




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 Re: Manure Spreaders in reply to scott#2, 08-31-2007 18:40:56  
Thanks for all the information, by the way I am in Md. I'm still a little confused on what I should be looking for. I hunted this forum pretty hard and came away with a couple brand names and a model or 2 that receive high praise, especially the older, local made ones. I guess a better way to pose the questions would have been; what type feeds, beater/slinger bar arrangements and drives do the better job and leave few if any clumps. Should I be looking for that NI #17 mentioned, if I can find it? What other models come close to this performance? And what kind or model is that in that nice picture. Just wanna buy one, cry once. I also read that some do better with wet manuer/muck than others and I dont know what type manure I will be getting and I am sure it will be dropped in with a loader, seems loading with a loader makes a big difference too.

Any other pointers?

Thanks everyone for all your help and time.

scott#2

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James22

09-03-2007 21:42:33




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 Re: Manure Spreaders in reply to scott#2, 09-02-2007 17:20:45  
If you are going to be spreading in mud, then buy a PTO model. Personally I never wanted to make wheel trenches and compact the soil by driving over it with a spreader when it was muddy. I can't believe horse manure will be that tough to spread. If you are going to spread "semi-liquid" manure, plan on having a movable endgate installed in front of the rear beaters. The bottom front spillage can be minimized by utilizing some strategically placed dry manure in the gap the web chain runs thru. Generally I would avoid metal floor/side spreaders unless you plan on keeping them clean and shedded, although wood will last a lot longer if it is also keep inside.

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b.t.s.

09-02-2007 04:41:40




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 Re: Manure Spreaders in reply to scott#2, 08-31-2007 18:40:56  
Neighbor has horses so I've been thinking of getting a sppreader and some of his manure for my field. Then I thought it would bring in lots of flies and weeds. Is this true? Anybody noticed this?



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Don-Wi

09-01-2007 23:23:25




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 Re: Manure Spreaders in reply to scott#2, 08-31-2007 18:40:56  
If the manure sits on a pile for a while and heats, the only seeds you have to worry about are the ones from the plants that grew on top of the pile. The heat will kill the rest inside the pile.

We've always had H&S spreaders on our farm since I've been around, and the second one is just as old as the 1st one was. I'd say they do a fair job, but they can leave rather large unwanted piles on a hayfield. We don't haul on hay unless we drag it, so it's no big deal for us.

A neighbor I worked for on & off had an old Heubner (local brand) and they spread like non-other. Hardly had any that went under the beater, so hardly any random piles. The down side of those, were the wheel hubs were just a cast hub w/ a brass bushing on a shaft, so now wheel bearings. If a farmer was lax on his maintnance (ussually is on the sh!t spreader anyway) they would wear right through the cast iron hub.

New Idea was sure a popular model and I'm sure they worked well, but we've never used one. Rented a few others like Badger and Knight, but they were way too big for any small guy. We just needed to haul it out faster than our spreader would allow. Then we had 2 tractors spreading and 1 loading.

A good spreader can handle it all, including, but not limited too, black dirt and very hard packed pens.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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Leroy

09-03-2007 04:32:04




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 Re: Manure Spreaders in reply to Don-Wi, 09-01-2007 23:23:25  
What can you tell me about that company? The old german spelling of my mothers family was Huebner changed by one branch of the family to Hibner.



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Don-Wi

09-03-2007 09:36:07




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 Re: Manure Spreaders in reply to Leroy, 09-03-2007 04:32:04  
Heubner was a small company out of Hilbert, Wi. I think the shop is still there but I'm pretty sure they don't make any implements anymore. Back in the day they made spreaders and forage wagons for their main product, and they would also bend pipe for cow stalls and make pen panels, etc.

I'm not sure when they quit making wagons and spreaders, but back in the 70's & 80's there were a ton of their wagons around the area, and there still are quite a few around and being used for one thing or another. I don't know much about the company, but I was at the shop a while back with my dad when we were getting our H&S manure spreader fixed, back in the mid 90's.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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farmerweber in PA

09-01-2007 21:07:45




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 Re: Manure Spreaders in reply to scott#2, 08-31-2007 18:40:56  
Got to agree with Daniel H.Ground driven New Idea is the way to go.In the immediate family we have a New Idea #17 (ground drive),a Oliver 480(pto) and a fairly new New Idea(pto).The old #17 does a better job of laying out a nice even,fine job than the other two put together.They just don't make them like that anymore.



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Daniel H.

09-01-2007 19:42:36




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 Re: Manure Spreaders in reply to scott#2, 08-31-2007 18:40:56  
Around here New Idea ground driven was the standard.

Notice the tires are backward on this one. On implements the tractor style tires are turned opposite of the tractors.

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James22

09-02-2007 11:00:01




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 Re: Manure Spreaders in reply to Daniel H., 09-01-2007 19:42:36  
We used a NI spreader that looked almost identical to this one, except it might have been a couple of feet longer, for 40 years. Never washed it out, but it was always shedded. Had to replace the web chain once, the links wore out at the cross bars. Usually used a loader to fill it, so it didn't have an easy life just spreading hand pitched manure. Much better spread than the single beater implements.

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Spritzer

09-01-2007 05:24:04




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 Re: Manure Spreaders in reply to scott#2, 08-31-2007 18:40:56  
Have good spreader---Will sell. Gr. driven, 2-wheel, IHC. Where do you live?



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johns48jdb

08-31-2007 19:13:09




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 Re: Manure Spreaders in reply to scott#2, 08-31-2007 18:40:56  
if you can stand the wait, pile all of the manure on any old hay you can find and keep it turned with a front end loader. it takes about 3 years for it to rot and mix together but it makes one heck of a mixture to put on a garden spot and i'm sure it would do good for your pastures. putting it in a mulch pile will kill all the unwanted plants and seeds. around here i had trouble keeping bermuda grass out of it but you may want that on your pasture anyway.

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