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HAYBOY

08-27-2007 17:41:24




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Does anyone here have any idea how to get rid of milkweed? It has really become a big problem here in the western part of Massachusetts and Eastern New york. I hate chemicals, but am at wits end at this point




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msb

08-28-2007 19:57:16




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 Re: Weed control question in reply to HAYBOY, 08-27-2007 17:41:24  
If you mow them off and don't leave the bottom two leaves on the plant then the root will shoot up two plants the next spring.Seriously.

Not so serious a way to control them. Try raising them as a crop and watch em die.



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HAYBOY

08-28-2007 20:07:01




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 Re: Weed control question in reply to msb, 08-28-2007 19:57:16  
Now that sounds like the best idea yet!!



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Larry T

08-28-2007 18:01:20




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 Re: Weed control question in reply to HAYBOY, 08-27-2007 17:41:24  
Milk weed [Asclepias curasavica]This weed is poisonous to cattle although the author has no record of reported stock deaths from eating the plant. Best Method of control. "Pull it out."
Secondary Method:Common milkweed has become a severe weed in cultivated cropland due to an extensive, deep root system, insulating winter snow, moist to wet summer conditions, tolerance to many commonly used herbicides, reduced tillage, and lack of human persistence in chemical, mechanical, and cultural control measures. Common milkweed is tolerant to most labeled herbicides. Control requires multiple herbicide application. Preventing establishment and spread of common milkweed patches requires continuous scouting and persistent control efforts.

Prevent seed production. Milkweed seed is highly viable and will germinate readily. Pappus on seeds allows long-distance travel and is responsible for establishment in fields. Common milkweed becomes perennial (capable of reproducing from underground roots) approximately 3 weeks after emergence. New shoots developing from established roots begin emerging in late April and grow more rapidly than spring seeded crops.

Milkweed control is expensive. Individual plants and small patches are easier and less expensive to treat than entire fields. Patch spraying covers only a fraction of the area of a broadcast application. Patch spraying allows use of higher herbicide rates with less expense than broadcast spraying. Research Data - applied June of 2004
Herbicide Rate Fall 2004 Spring 05 pt/A % control
2,4-D 4 36 48
Banvel 2 71 61
Banvel + 2,4-D 0.5+2 26 15
Curtail 4 13 6
Tordon 2 86 83
Roundup 6 56 99

Apply herbicides when milkweed is in the late-bud to flowering stage and actively growing. Control patches when small. Patch-spray glyphosate at 6 to 8 pt/A (up to 10 pt/A is allowed). Apply at late bud to flowering. Add ammonium sulfate at 8.5 to 17 lb/100 gallons of water. Do not apply after small grain is headed and only a maximum of 10% of the field can be treated. After heading, the application is regarded as a preharvest application and maximum use rates are limited to 2 pt/A. Patch-spray Tordon at 4 to 8 pt/A. Tordon residue will help prevent other shoots from emerging. CAUTION: Tordon residue will be present for several years after application. Tordon may no longer be available due to EPA restrictions. For additional information you might try>Link
Just>Link to let you know, I am a professional Pest Control Operator. Thanks, LarryT

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HAYBOY

08-28-2007 20:10:10




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 Re: Weed control question in reply to Larry T, 08-28-2007 18:01:20  
Thanks larry, I will certainly check that link out



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James Howell

08-28-2007 10:03:51




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 Re: Weed control question in reply to HAYBOY, 08-27-2007 17:41:24  
My favorite wife uses 2,4-D to kill weeds in our hay meadow.

It will kill the weeds and leave the grass.

She buys 2,4-D at Tractor Supply.

She uses it because it is safe and will not harm her horses.



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Michael Soldan

08-27-2007 18:34:24




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 Re: Weed control question in reply to HAYBOY, 08-27-2007 17:41:24  
Had that happen a few years ago in a soy bean field. We each got a squirt bottle with a mix of round up, walked the field, stopping at each milkweed patch, made sure each plant got a small squirt, did 60 acres, three of us in about three mornings..didn't take much chemical results were just about 100%..time..well we talked and visited and then went for lunch each day and had a cold beer afternoon..three neighbours getting the days in...

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Larry T

08-27-2007 18:08:54




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 Re: Weed control question in reply to HAYBOY, 08-27-2007 17:41:24  
What is your crop?



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HAYBOY

08-28-2007 17:25:14




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 Re: Weed control question in reply to Larry T, 08-27-2007 18:08:54  
well mainly in my affected areas it is just a real good grass hay. We took the property over three yrs ago, and have cut it religiously 3 times a year since taking it over. the problem is that I do not want to kill everything in the field to hit these trouble spots, being the grass that is there is just to nice to kill off. I have heard a mix of Banvil and Roundup does about 75% of the milkweed, but nobody has a definite answer for me. Any help would be great! Mike

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paul

08-28-2007 18:27:55




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 Re: Weed control question in reply to HAYBOY, 08-28-2007 17:25:14  
skip the Roundup. Just the Banvil - or Banvil with 2,4,D. Neither of these sprays will hurt grasses if used properly. Be careful of Banvel near a garden - do _not_ use it in hot 90+ weather. It turns into a gas & floats over to garden type crops & smokes them. Works real good tho in cooler temps. Clarity is the same ingredients, but does not drift as much.

Other brush-killer type of sprays also will do in the milkweeds. Typically they are a mix of the above products. ;)

They often work better in late spring or early summer. By now weeds are pretty tough & are in a different mode, not actively growing root systems & such. Thicker leaf coating.

If you see seed pods on the milk weeds (we do here...) then it is kinda late to be spraying. You will get all that seed release even if you spray now. Collecting the pods on a pail(s) is the best last effort by now.

They don't take mowing real well. Cattle have to be darned hungry to mess with them. (Lots of weeds are slightly toxic to cattle, typically not a real problem.)

Spraying in May or June might give 'em a good fight.

--->Paul

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HAYBOY

08-28-2007 20:06:08




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 Re: Weed control question in reply to paul, 08-28-2007 18:27:55  
Thanks again Paul, right now they are only maybe 6-10" tall, mainly because we have already cut the grass twice. I will definetly look into the 2-4-d, Banvel mix. Never really gets too hot here so I think I am safe with the temps!! Thanks again



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