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horse-to- tractor pull type conversion

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brad siegmund

08-21-2007 13:01:20




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I would like to convert a mule drawn mccormick-deering # 9 sickle mower to tractor drawn.
my concern is how to attach the unit to the tractor properly. has anyone tried this? The horse drawn tongue seems to have just supported the mower(at the proper angle) and the mule/horse pulled on some sort of draft bracket situated under the tung?




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LAW/MN

08-21-2007 20:28:05




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 Re: horse-to- tractor pull type conversion in reply to brad siegmund, 08-21-2007 13:01:20  
You are correct, the whipple tree for connecting
the traces was attached beneath the tongue of the
mower. We cut the pole off at about 5 ft and bolted
2 iron pieces beneath the cutoff pole, one at a
angle for connecting to the drawbar of the tractor.
We used this setup for several years during and after WW2.



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B.T.S.

08-22-2007 06:57:28




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 Re: horse-to- tractor pull type conversion in reply to LAW/MN, 08-21-2007 20:28:05  
Would you mind explaining a little more detailed on that design?



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El Toro

08-22-2007 16:05:48




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 Re: horse-to- tractor pull type conversion in reply to B.T.S., 08-22-2007 06:57:28  
When I made the brackets for the mower that I cut the broken tongue off I used 2 pieces of steel flat stock. I drilled a 3/4" hole for towing and 1/2" for mounting the brackets. I had to raise the drawbar on the tractor. We even used that setup to mow off thistle in the pastures. Hal



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El Toro

08-21-2007 15:06:50




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 Re: horse-to- tractor pull type conversion in reply to brad siegmund, 08-21-2007 13:01:20  
I converted a 5-foot horse drawn mower when I was a teen after my broke the tongue when he was too close to the fence row. My dad was upset about it, but accidents do happen.

The horses were not injured and I pulled the mower back to the machine shed. I cut the tongue off and made a pair of brackets in my shop class at school. I had to use a brace and bit to drill the holes and after I had the brackets on I hooked the mower to an old 10-20 and drove it around to the cow barn and picked up my dad. We went out and mowed hay. My dad rode the mower
we never used horses for mowing after that. When we got an H later on they bought a 7-ft mower with it. We had another 5-ft mower I should have hooked it behind the other mower and made a 10-foot cut. That was probably unheard of back then. The 10-20 could both easily. Hal

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55 50

08-21-2007 20:47:47




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 Re: horse-to- tractor pull type conversion in reply to El Toro, 08-21-2007 15:06:50  
We did the two-5-foot-mowers-pulled-by-a-tractor thing. The front one had a lever for bar raising from the tractor operator, rear mower was ridden and with tractor speed a bit more than horses, it like to shock that rear rider to pieces, I know because I was that rider many times!!



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El Toro

08-22-2007 03:58:34




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 Re: horse-to- tractor pull type conversion in reply to 55 50, 08-21-2007 20:47:47  
I rode that mower too and it was hard on the rump.
It was my older brother that broke the tongue. In 1950 when we got the H the war in Korea had started and in 1951 my brother joined the Air Force a few days after we graduated from high school. I left the farm and went to work for the Federal Government and got drafted in 1953.
Hal



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johns48jdb

08-21-2007 13:54:36




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 Re: horse-to- tractor pull type conversion in reply to brad siegmund, 08-21-2007 13:01:20  
we did that when i was a kid growing up. just shortened the tongue up and my brother either drove the tractor or swapped up with me riding on the mower. somebody has to ride to pick it up, unless you do a lot to it. why not display your mule mower and get you a good mower with hydraulic lift to use.



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B.T.S.

08-22-2007 07:04:34




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 Re: horse-to- tractor pull type conversion in reply to johns48jdb, 08-21-2007 13:54:36  
my tractor has no pto or hydraulics on it. Also my wife is against lawn ornamenting! I need to make that mower "look useful"or I'll be out of business acquiring neet older equipment!



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johns48jdb

08-22-2007 16:38:12




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 Re: horse-to- tractor pull type conversion in reply to B.T.S., 08-22-2007 07:04:34  
my wife started that and i told her that i could go down to the local bar and watch the girls dance for a hobby. she never said another word about what i brought in.



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KEH

08-22-2007 13:59:09




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 Re: horse-to- tractor pull type conversion in reply to B.T.S., 08-22-2007 07:04:34  

If your tractor has a low drawbar you will have to raise the front of the sawed off horse tougue some. There is an angle adjustment for the blade on the #9 but in our case it was not enough. Daddy got a piece of wood big enought to fit in the tongue bracket on the mower and trimmed it at an angle so the end of the tongue would be lower when it was bolted in place. A piece of metal was bolted to the bottom of the tongue for the hitch. In your case, I would bolt the tongue(I think ours was about 5 or 6 feet long) straight in and have a hitch of metal made which is offset down a distance which you can determine by trial and error. Mower cuts good but you can't pull it very fast.

KEH

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