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Round Bales - MoCo or just cut?

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Chuck Herrick

08-17-2007 11:47:05




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If the cut hay is going into round bales, is a MoCo (Mower Conditioner) a bad idea?

I know round bales were engineered to be stored outside, and to shed rain by the outer layer.

Will conditioning the grass (breaking up the waxy grass and stem) make the outer layer of the round bale less able to shed water?

If so, would it be better for round bales to just cut the hay and let it sit for an extra couple of days before baling?

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Hay DR

08-18-2007 07:30:23




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 Re: Round Bales - MoCo or just cut? in reply to Chuck Herrick, 08-17-2007 11:47:05  
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You can take a 3 point disc mower and a tedder and put up hay as fast as anyone out there. You will also save fuel because you can use smaller tractors and have less soil compaction.



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RickL

08-17-2007 18:37:56




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 Re: Round Bales - MoCo or just cut? in reply to Chuck Herrick, 08-17-2007 11:47:05  
no difference in baLES THEY ONLY THING MOWCO DOES IS SOMETIMES IT WILL CUT DAY OR TO oFF DRY TIME



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old

08-17-2007 13:17:03




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 Re: Round Bales - MoCo or just cut? in reply to Chuck Herrick, 08-17-2007 11:47:05  
I've used sickle mower and MOCO for round bales and I if I can will bale behind the MOCO because it take a lot less time for the hay to dry. Also doesn't seem to matter which way it is cut as far as storeing the bales out side.



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nballen

08-17-2007 12:55:20




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 Re: Round Bales - MoCo or just cut? in reply to Chuck Herrick, 08-17-2007 11:47:05  
The conditioner cracks the stems at regular intervals to allow the plant moisture to "bleed" at every break and thus dry quicker.

The conditioner is worth its weight in gold if you are short on drying time, especially with a "stemmy" crop like alfalfa. By my observations, even in grass hay, conditioning can cut 1 to 2 days from the required drying time.

If you have infrequent rain, light dew, and high temps / low humidity, you probably don't need the conditioner. You know your area / weather better than any of us on here.

Nathaniel

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ChrisLSD

08-17-2007 12:45:25




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 Re: Round Bales - MoCo or just cut? in reply to Chuck Herrick, 08-17-2007 11:47:05  
i would think no noticeable difference either

BUT - netwrap makes the long stems of grass all stay tightly tucked against the surface of the bale and shed water much better -

definitely worth the extra price of net



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pair-a-dice farm

08-17-2007 12:26:07




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 Re: Round Bales - MoCo or just cut? in reply to Chuck Herrick, 08-17-2007 11:47:05  
I really don't think it makes much difference. I've used both. I had a NH mower conditioner for years and baled with a Vermeer baler and had no problems. Now I use a disc mower and tedder which I like better but as far as the hay keeping in the bale, I can't tell any difference.



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