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Where to get a tying arm motor for NH 853 round baler

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Willy P

08-16-2007 19:40:19




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I am having trouble with the 12 volt motor that runs the twine arms on my NH 853 round baler. Sometimes it works but it does not have much power,the brushes look good and I have tried grounding it and I made a new wire harness for it and getting 12 volts to it. NH wants $500.00+ for a new one. It should be some other place to get just the motor or how can I fix this one? HELP




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BCnT

08-17-2007 07:38:54




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 Re: Where to get a tying arm motor for NH 853 round baler in reply to Willy P, 08-16-2007 19:40:19  
check dim's against your motor...should be able to rig something up with one of these



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Willy P

08-17-2007 05:46:29




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 Re: Where to get a tying arm motor for NH 853 round baler in reply to Willy P, 08-16-2007 19:40:19  
Morning all, Yes it does have the bale command,but I have it hot wired just to get it working,(bypassing the balecommand)thought maybe some of the original wires might be bad. I took it too a good starter,generator repair shop and they wouldn't work on it,said he couldn't get parts for it. I am trying to figure out where it is grounded at on the inside,the brushes have 12 volts coming out of them but can't figure out how it grounds on the inside. Thanks

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Don-Wi

08-17-2007 23:43:39




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 Re: Where to get a tying arm motor for NH 853 round baler in reply to Willy P, 08-17-2007 05:46:29  
how do you have it wired? just 2 wires to the switch, or more? what kind of switch?

I wired up a window motor from an S-10 for the spout on our chopper. To get it to work, I had to use a double-pole 3 postion toggle switch (6 terminals out the back) One feed and ground wire for both positions, plus the power and ground wire going to the switch. I ended up splicing a second wire to the 2 wires coming from the motor, then put one on the power for the raise, and the other on the ground for the lower, and vice versa.

That way when the toggle is thrown one way, one wire is ground and goes back ot the battery via a direct wire I ran to it, and the other wire has the power going to the motor. When I flip the switch the other way, the motor reverses and the wires switch polarity.

Under the dash on the tractor is a bit of a mess with so much wire, but it really is simpler than it sounds. The motor just grounds out through the second wire, not through the frame like I originally thought.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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Allan In NE

08-17-2007 06:34:43




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 Re: Where to get a tying arm motor for NH 853 round baler in reply to Willy P, 08-17-2007 05:46:29  
Uff-Da!

Just some ideas for you to work with. That is one ornery system. :>)

It is a reversable motor. Pretty darned sure all the grounding is done right back at that brain box via the cable, because a bad ground at the brain will completely kill the motor action.

Those two big fat wires feed the motor 12 volts. One is fed voltage for forward direction and the other for the reverse direction.

Also, there are three switches that have to be lined up before it will work. The "full bale" switch, the "tie arm" switch and the "door lock" switch. Additionally, the goofy thing absolutely will not run if the brain is out of sequence with itself.

Have you reset the brain yet?

As I recall, you do it by holding down the "tie" button and turning on the power. Let it run thru it's self test, waiting until the green light comes on steady and then turning off the power again. Let the tie switch up, re-power and it should be ready to go.

Also, that nylon bushing where the arbor goes thru the baler wall. Is it okay?

Additionally and just for what it is worth, make sure your hydraulic lines are functioning properly. If that door doesn't "lock down" and/or the lock switch isn't working, the motor will not run.

Hope ya get 'er. They are sweet when they function right, but will abosolutely drive ya nuts to get 'em going again. :>)

Allan

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Allan In NE

08-17-2007 05:35:49




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 Re: Where to get a tying arm motor for NH 853 round baler in reply to Willy P, 08-16-2007 19:40:19  
Hi Willy,

Are you sure it is a faulty motor?

Does your baler have the "Bale Command" setup with the brain box up in the cab of the tractor?

Allan



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Gary in TX

08-16-2007 19:46:22




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 Re: Where to get a tying arm motor for NH 853 round baler in reply to Willy P, 08-16-2007 19:40:19  
Take it too a starter shop that rebuilds starters generators and alternators. They should be able too check it out and rebuild it if needed. you might also check with mikes equipment yard. Not sure what there number is right off but you can do a search for it and it should come up.



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