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Daved

08-12-2007 20:29:26




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I have a new holland 718 field cutter and i'm cutting silage, but are having problems in areas with heavy grass. The pickup head is a rotor knife with a single set of chains. The grass is building up beneath the chains and is plugging up. Is there anything i can do to prevent this or do any other pull type cutter heads work better in grassy areas. All the help is great! Also does anyone know anything about the 824 NH corn heads and if they are any better?

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mt.farm

08-13-2007 20:20:23




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 Re: Cutting Silage in reply to Daved, 08-12-2007 20:29:26  
The 824 heads will give no problems with the grass if the round discs are adjusted to zero tolerance.They dont work well in severly down corn like we had here in 1989 after Hurricane Hugo though. The heads with the discs too far in front of the gathering chains are 822's



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Dave Sherburne NY

08-13-2007 18:08:34




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 Re: Cutting Silage in reply to Daved, 08-12-2007 20:29:26  
My memory is not good on the 824 numbers, but I recall NH made one with those round cutters way out
near the points on the pickup. They would cut the corn before the chains would grab it and then it would fall out of the pickup. Didn't work good for light or short corn but worked pretty well with a good stand. When they figured they made a mistake they made another one with the cutters farther back where the chains could grab the stalks before they got cut off. That one must have worked a lot better because they always bring more at auction. I speak from experience on the ones with the cutterblades to far out front. Tho I didn't know they put that style on a 718.

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Fromjb2

08-13-2007 18:02:43




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 Re: Cutting Silage in reply to Daved, 08-12-2007 20:29:26  
Dave, as someone else said make sure the rotary knife is sharp and cutting clean. Also sometimes it helps to tighten the gathering gains some.

If all else fails only cut during the driest part of the day after the grass has dried off.

Foxtail can be very bad. We used to do a 4 year rotation on silage corn and if the fourth year was dry or the corn didn't get a good start the faoxtail would be in the rows and could only cut it in the afternoon.

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JimB

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JTinNJ

08-13-2007 09:59:55




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 Re: Cutting Silage in reply to Daved, 08-12-2007 20:29:26  
The guy up the road cut his corn last week. It was cut it now,because,next week there will not be enough moisture left in the corn to make silage.



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barnrat

08-13-2007 06:03:46




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 Re: Cutting Silage in reply to Daved, 08-12-2007 20:29:26  
That sounds pretty normal for a 718 harvester. I used to have one and it was a nightmare in weedy fields. The best way to deal with it is make sure that rotary knife is adjusted right up and make sure that the slide is all shiny with no rust . I always painted mine at the end of the season. Even with all that I've stopped 3-4 times per load to clean everything out in weedy fields.

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vernMN

08-12-2007 23:15:38




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 Re: Cutting Silage in reply to Daved, 08-12-2007 20:29:26  
Years and I mean many years ago, on the old choppers there was problems with grass wrapping on the chain gears. Gehl had a round plate guard that it boasted helped with preventing the wrapping. Check and see if something is missing that keeps the grass out of the sprokets.



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Don-Wi

08-12-2007 20:54:04




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 Re: Cutting Silage in reply to Daved, 08-12-2007 20:29:26  
I've got a gut feeling that says your grass haylage is gonna spoil by cutting it green and putting it in the silo. It's gotta wilt a little bit after being cut with a haybine of some sort so it isn't so wet when put up. Too much moisture makes it rank in the silo, and the cows won't touch it.

Same thing as chopping too much green feed for the cows to eat within 1 day. After that it just gets sour and they won't touch it. Then a guy has to pitch it out....

Donovan from Wisconsin

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paul

08-12-2007 21:53:47




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 Re: Cutting Silage in reply to Don-Wi, 08-12-2007 20:54:04  
I was taking it he is making corn silage, & the foxtail is kinda heavy in spots, messing up his sprocket/chain?

I don't have any answers tho, so lotta good I am...

--->Paul



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Don-Wi

08-13-2007 00:04:07




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 Re: Cutting Silage in reply to paul, 08-12-2007 21:53:47  
Now that ya say it, I guess that's what it sounds like. Just seems too early yet to be doing corn but we'll probably get going on it in about 3 weeks. Kinda scarey to think about really... that means the year is almost over.

Donovan from Wisconsin



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730virgil

08-13-2007 11:02:16




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 Re: Cutting Silage in reply to Don-Wi, 08-13-2007 00:04:07  
what you're saying about the year being almost most gone. i always hated to have my brithday and county fair come around as i knew school wouldn't be far behind which i hated. i always tought my 1 st grade teacher was either a retired prison guard or awol from the nazi army. she was a mean old bat. if she had been a holstein cow dad would have shown her who was boss if that didn't work she would have become hamburger.

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paul

08-13-2007 09:12:23




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 Re: Cutting Silage in reply to Don-Wi, 08-13-2007 00:04:07  
Normally 3 weeks from now here too, but some have started this past week - no rain, corn burning away.

--->Paul



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msb

08-13-2007 06:31:08




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 Re: Cutting Silage in reply to Don-Wi, 08-13-2007 00:04:07  
Depends on where he lives and how much rain he had,Don. It would be too late to cut silage in some parts of the country now. They are already shelling corn down south.



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