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Drum mower question??

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backwoodsfarm

08-07-2007 18:23:56




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I just bought a Galfre 6' drum mower, got it home and hooked it up to the tractor. The guy I bought it from had only used it once, no owners manual, and only knew how to swing it to transport position and mow position. In mow position I can't get the far drum off the ground when I raise the 3 point hitch all the way up. In transport position it's fine. Are these mowers able to be lifted up off the ground when in the mow position, or do you just mow through the hay you've already cut when things get tight? I know nothing about these mowers but it just seems that there is no adjustment to be able to get both drums off the ground when mowing. And also, are you supposed to mow with the drums sitting on the ground in a float position? It looks like the blades would only be off the ground a couple of inches? Sorry for the long post but until I can find a manual for this thing I need some help. Thanks to everyone for all the help on this board.

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Garry_TX

08-09-2007 20:01:41




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 the 'beauty' of a drum mower...... in reply to backwoodsfarm, 08-07-2007 18:23:56  
cuts closer, cleaner & prettier than any lawn mower ever "thought" about....

& no....not much of a way to keep it from doing so, (other than extremely "dull" blades) that I"ve ever found...

running a coupla "old" pz drums, myself...

assuming your cutter is (at least) similiar...

understand the problem that you ask about - but is only a problem in transport -from pasture to pasture - sitting on the ground & running in "cut mode" --- it don"t care if"n whats there has been cut or not, ie.. miss a spot, (or those "corners") just pull out, hit the brake - make a U-Turn (turns much easier turning towards the cutter, in otherwords - keep the cutter on the "inside" of the turn)- go cut what ya missed, or the corners or whatever, then resume where ya left off....it don"t even care if"n the grass has been "run over" & mashed down..... going to cut "whatevers there" right at the top of the ground ---- if"n it"s "cuttable"...(does "tend, to sorta balk at sweet-gum roots & pine saplings over 1.5 -2 inches though!!)

as for the "not picking up the outside drum" (don"t know about the 4 drum setup as mine are only 2 drums) - the little "flopper" thing only keeps it (the 3 pt setup) level when setting it off the tractor, so"s you can hook back onto it..... if"n you want to pick it up "level" (for transport in "cut" position), get yourself a short length of 2.5 - 3 inch (or what ever width it takes for your cutter) x .25 flat bar, let the 3 pt all the way down, slide the bar into the slots on the bars that are on both sides of the main vertical round part of the configuration (I"m sure there are "specific" names for all these parts - but I don"t know what they are!!) - then as the lift comes up, there is not the 6 inches or so (of the slots) that has to pass before something actually starts raising.

will also help in transport position, esp.. if your loading on a trailer -- instead of being "straight out" will give it a little upward lift, so"s it don"t drag near as much when the tractor is going up/coming down the ramps.....

glc

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Garry_TX

08-09-2007 22:48:29




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 More.... in reply to Garry_TX, 08-09-2007 20:01:41  
I know it seems sorta complicated, but it really isn't.....

everthing, everyone has said, & a little more.....

not familiar with your brand, so again, assumming,....(like a pz..)

the mower (everything, - drums, upper gearbox, 3 pt., all components & the weight combined) sets/rests on the bottom 'saucers - pans - 'up-side-down frizbee' [whatever the correct term is?] -

[not saying it is the correct way][but works for me] - on level ground - set the front of the drum the same height as the the back of the drum via the top link of the 3pt., being 'conscience that with forward motion the cutter will tend to 'tilt' forward (leading edge down)[also depends on the looseness/wear of the cutter -- I have one cutter that will tilt a little further than the other, due to wear in the connection parts].

too far farward, the blades will be cutting into the earth.....too far backwards (depending upon the quality of skirting on the cutter - will 'cover' you with earth, unless you have an enclosed cab..... .....

the exact height of the cut will be governed by the amount of 'cup' in the bottom saucers & how high they (the saucers) hold the the blades off the ground..... ...

no need to 'pick it up' while passing back over 'cut grass' -- [it is "not" the same as a sickle--(if anything like my pz)]-- cut the field out - anywhich way ya please..(the tedder &/or rake & even the baler - will cover/hide all traces of cutting mistakes/fun)...if'n it won't.....(trade it in & get ya self a 20 - 30 year??? old pz..!! so's ya can have some fun & enjoy the ride..

glc

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Hay DR

08-08-2007 06:56:03




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 Re: Drum mower question?? in reply to backwoodsfarm, 08-07-2007 18:23:56  
Just mow back through the hay it will not clog the mower or hurt the hay quality.



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Roy in UK

08-07-2007 22:37:38




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 Re: Drum mower question?? in reply to backwoodsfarm, 08-07-2007 18:23:56  
There is something wrong with the mower. You should be able to pick both drums up in the working position on a drum mower. Does it have a damper spring?



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backwoodsfarm

08-08-2007 18:15:17




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 Re: Drum mower question?? in reply to Roy in UK, 08-07-2007 22:37:38  
Roy-
It has a tension type spring that will tighten as I lift the mower. As I raise the 3PT hitch, the mounting assembly will raise and the long shaft going into the mower pivots at the pivot point, but when the pivot point has come up all the way and the mower starts to comes off the ground, my 3PT hitch is up as far as I can go. The drum section of the mower is also tipped towards the front of the tractor, and it's the front of the end drum that will not come up off the ground. I only lengthend my top link enough to level the mower as it's in mow position on the ground. Do I need to lengthen my top link? It just doesn't make any sense to me.

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Lew Best

08-07-2007 19:50:15




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 Re: Drum mower question?? in reply to backwoodsfarm, 08-07-2007 18:23:56  
I had an old PZ drum mower years ago (in fact just recently bought another but it has problems) & the owners manual (found on on ebay) shows to set the mower on the ground tilted slightly forward. It does lift all 4 drums off the ground but the end one is close.

Probably end up fixing it & selling it; found a coupla disc mowers since then; one of them works great & I like it lots better.

Hope this helps!

Lew Best near Waco, TX

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JBMac

08-07-2007 18:54:56




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 Re: Drum mower question?? in reply to backwoodsfarm, 08-07-2007 18:23:56  
Good Evening,

I don"t have much experience with drum mowers. With a disc mower, I let it "float" on the ground on the ride shoes. They are, I beleive, designed to carry the weight of the mower so that it can mow as close as posibble without injuring the crop and increasing yeild. One inch less grass cut over many acres adds up. Check with you"re extension agent for the type of hay you are cutting. In North Florida, my fields (bermuda and bahia) look almost scalped after a cutting, but they come right back. It does take some adjustments with the top link and three point to get the angle just right. Hope this was of some help.

John

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