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Turtle

07-25-2007 07:15:37




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I am looking at what I believe to be a NH 451 mower. I have just a couple of questions for the ones that are familiar with these. It is a 9 ft blade and appears to be in fairly good shape. The questions are what to look for as far as any paticular problems these might of had? I was also courious about the cable that is on there as to its function? And lastly there is a bracket that is on the bottom and not a part of the three point, but appears to be a stabilizer? Thanks for any help.

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Tim Shaw

07-26-2007 19:31:39




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 Re: New Holland Sickle bar in reply to Bill in Colo, 07-25-2007 07:15:37  

Seth_ia said: (quoted from post at 21:11:31 07/26/07) Glad to hear someone likes them. Worked on neighbors last fall with the same type of problems. I just have yet to see a peice of NH machinery that is build as heavy and simple as I would like. When it comes to hay equipment, Hesston is the only brand I've seen worth owning.


Tighten the sickle head bolt down tight, very tight. If it comes loose it will wreck the drive plates and sickle head bushing in short order. Also, don't let the pivot links get loose. If you can spin the tin shields that cover the bearings they are too loose. I'll respectfully disagree with you on the quality of NH equipment. We've ran NH round balers for years and bale 4 to 5 thousand big rounds every year. Very few problems with both the balers and mowers.

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Tim Shaw

07-26-2007 18:43:23




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 Re: New Holland Sickle bar in reply to Chrisco, 07-25-2007 07:15:37  

Seth_ia said: (quoted from post at 21:01:25 07/25/07) A 451 has the same pitmanless drive that the 455 mower my dad has. Watch out for slop in the piviots on the sickle drive. Those piviots cost a small fortune to rebuild. If I remember right it $50-100 per piviot. The other problem is that the sickle drive plates are too light. I just got done taking the plates out of dad's mower today because the bolt hole for the sickle head is egged out. These plates were just replaced last time the sickle was changed and this mower is used VERY litle(mainly ditches). After seeing this mower I'll sure never own one. They have the same problem of ever other NH product 'Under built, over complicated, and expensive repair parts'.


We mow thousands of acres with Rowse D9 mowers that use the New Holland mowers (same mower as the 451, 456) and have very few problems. They are good mowers and if properly maintained, last a long time.

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Seth_ia

07-26-2007 19:11:31




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 Re: New Holland Sickle bar in reply to Tim Shaw, 07-26-2007 18:43:23  
Glad to hear someone likes them. Worked on neighbors last fall with the same type of problems. I just have yet to see a peice of NH machinery that is build as heavy and simple as I would like. When it comes to hay equipment, Hesston is the only brand I've seen worth owning.



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MLD

07-26-2007 08:07:31




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 Re: New Holland Sickle bar in reply to Turtle, 07-25-2007 07:15:37  
I really like my 451, use it behind a JD 1010. Its a little tricky to hook up but not what I would call hard too do. Adjust the 3 point & get everything leveled out, just raise & lower the 3 point to lift the bar up & down. No complaints here, bought it used about 4-5 years ago for $1000.



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Seth_ia

07-25-2007 19:01:25




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 Re: New Holland Sickle bar in reply to Turtle, 07-25-2007 07:15:37  
A 451 has the same pitmanless drive that the 455 mower my dad has. Watch out for slop in the piviots on the sickle drive. Those piviots cost a small fortune to rebuild. If I remember right it $50-100 per piviot. The other problem is that the sickle drive plates are too light. I just got done taking the plates out of dad's mower today because the bolt hole for the sickle head is egged out. These plates were just replaced last time the sickle was changed and this mower is used VERY litle(mainly ditches). After seeing this mower I'll sure never own one. They have the same problem of ever other NH product 'Under built, over complicated, and expensive repair parts'.

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backwoodsfarm

07-25-2007 18:47:10




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 Re: New Holland Sickle bar in reply to Turtle, 07-25-2007 07:15:37  
Very good mower. The stabilizer bar and cable are essential to proper mower operation. Just make sure your tractor isn't one of the new "utility" tractors with the small draft arms and narrow yolk because the mower will not fit. My poor neighbor found that out after he bought his new JD.



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havvey

07-25-2007 18:29:22




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 Re: New Holland Sickle bar in reply to Turtle, 07-25-2007 07:15:37  
they are a real good mower with good parts supply. one weakness you see a few with broken crank/balance shaft. 450 is just as good.



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Bob

07-25-2007 09:17:05




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 Re: New Holland Sickle bar in reply to Turtle, 07-25-2007 07:15:37  
The cable and the bracket thing you've noticed cause the outer end of the cutter bar to tip up when the three-point hitch is raised.



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