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round baler suggestions part 2

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Scottnj

07-20-2007 18:38:25




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I posted a while back looking for some suggestions for a round baler. hopefully, the link for the old post is connected here.

Anyway, I"ve found that I have more NH dealers than others in my area. I"ve looked at a friend"s (about 1992) 853 with net wrap, and it looks like it would do what I want. It"s not for sale, but you never know when he might want to upgrade. Before I approach him about it, or find others similar, I"d like to get a little more info about that vintage/style baler.

I have no idea what makes an 853 different from an 851, or 855 etc... Would love to hear about it. Any of you NH experts want to give me a little education?

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Tom Till

07-21-2007 12:15:12




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 Re: round baler suggestions part 2 in reply to Scottnj, 07-20-2007 18:38:25  
I know there are people here that love their chain rollers.I ran 1 for about 7 years and had ok results with it.It was an 853 also. My advice is to stay away from the chain rollers. I hear people say how great they are if you maintain them properly and suggest if you can't run one you don't need to be fooling with hay anyway. I maintain my own cotton picker and still pick cotton every year with an old 782 and don't have any problems.Never could make the 853 work as well as my picker though and I know it is nowhere near as complicated as a picker. I guess I could have gotten the lemon of the bunch but you will never catch me with one again.That said I have a neighbor that feeds 150 cows and calves every year with an 855.I guess it is just what you are used to and comfortable with. Good Luck.

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Mn Dave

07-21-2007 05:35:20




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 Re: round baler suggestions part 2 in reply to Scottnj, 07-20-2007 18:38:25  
I bought a used 855 about 10 yrs. ago and had problems with it at first until I put in new chains and has been trouble free since. You need to take a pail of waste oil and dump it on the chain on the top while it is running slow once a day. I know OSHA wouldn't approve but be careful. Don't rely on the oilers on each side to do the job of oiling for you while you dump out the bale. My bro in law had a 853 or was it a 851? with floor chains and those were a pain and made a sloppier bale. The 855 has a big roller on the bottom to start your bale. If you are baling alfalfa you will get some wasted leaves if the hay is dry and you will also with a belt baler. In grass there is not much waste.

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Allan In NE

07-21-2007 03:51:35




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 Re: round baler suggestions part 2 in reply to Scottnj, 07-20-2007 18:38:25  
Scott,

The 852, 853, 855 and the 858 are the last generation of the chainers and "basically" only differ in their size of bale.

Also, they utilize the big, "beefie" construction.

Allan



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Formerly PaMike

07-21-2007 17:45:54




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 Re: round baler suggestions part 2 in reply to Allan In NE, 07-21-2007 03:51:35  
I know the 853 has floor chains, while the others have the floor rollers, I think.



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Allan In NE

07-22-2007 11:37:13




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 Re: round baler suggestions part 2 in reply to Formerly PaMike, 07-21-2007 17:45:54  
No,

The 853 is a relatively "late model" chain baler and is just more or less a minature copy of the 852/855.

As you can see in the second picture, it doesn't have the floor chains, but rather uses the big roller.

Allan

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Traditional Farmer

07-21-2007 03:17:26




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 Re: round baler suggestions part 2 in reply to Scottnj, 07-20-2007 18:38:25  
I have several NH 851 balers and they are most trouble equipment I ever had on the farm.They will bale anything and if you break a bar or chain you're either running a chain that is slam worn out,run a fence post into the bale chamber or too stupid to run something that resembles the same amount of hay in each side of the baler.I have never broken a chain or bar and bale 3 to 400 bales a year.I perfer the 851 with the springs instead of the later models with air bags and I like the manual tie over the electric tie or the hydraulic tie.Its simple and trouble free.I know people with John Deere balers with automatic tie that have spent as much on the tie mechanism as I have for a couple of NH balers

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Don-Wi

07-20-2007 23:02:05




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 Re: round baler suggestions part 2 in reply to Scottnj, 07-20-2007 18:38:25  
I've got 2 bad things about NH chainers, and we've only had one on our farm. It was some hay that we had to get off the field so we could use it for parking, and all we own is a small square baler and we didn't have enough time to handle it all. We called a neighbor with a chainer to come and bale it for us.

He came, got 2 whole bales made, broke a chain and had to go home. Where he dumped the bales (really nice 2nd crop, lots of leaves) there was a huge pile of chaff and stuff the baler knocked off. I actually picked the bales up with the tractor, then went back and baled up the piles with the square baler. No way to know how much good stuff was lost in the fields with that baler.

We then called my uncle who live about 30 miles away who had just gotten a Gehl 1600(?) round baler, but he really didn't have much land to use it on. He brought it out here, we bought more twine for it and started baling. Couldn't use the MF 285 for some reason, think it had a bad PTO brake, so we had to use the Oliver 1755 w/ loader on it.

It worked good, and we got it done and off in time to make some money parking cars. Only way it could have been better was if we coulda used the 285 on the baler. the tires were a little wider apart (had to run over some of the hay) and that tractor is a little more reliable. The 1755 had a bad engine and wouldn't restart when warm, so if you had a problem and had to shut down, you were walking back home to let it cool down. Dad coulda picked up the bales while I was baling too...

Donovan from Wisconsin

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Allan In NE

07-21-2007 04:44:48




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 Re: round baler suggestions part 2 in reply to Don-Wi, 07-20-2007 23:02:05  
Guess I don't understand your reasoning.

Your cussing the baler because the neighbor keeps his machinery in poor repair and doesn't know how to put up hay?

If you see leaves coming out of the bale chamber, it is due to operator error, certainly not because of a faulty machine.

Allan



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Don-Wi

07-21-2007 09:37:28




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 Re: round baler suggestions part 2 in reply to Allan In NE, 07-21-2007 04:44:48  
I guess I don't have much basis, but it did leave a bad taste in my nouth. I understand things break, but the amount of waste just seemed to be beaten out of it by the chains. I have no idea hat model # it was to compare to others.

Donovan from Wisconsin



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KEH

07-20-2007 18:53:17




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 Re: round baler suggestions part 2 in reply to Scottnj, 07-20-2007 18:38:25  

Some NH baler fans will probably disagree with me, but here goes anyway. I owned a NH chain baler for years and decided I preferred belt balers. The model I had, an 847, had chains in the floor which were an added expense when time came to replace the chains. Also, replacing the chains is tedious as well as expensive. Of course, a new set of belts is expensive but you rarely have to replace all the belts at once.

The main differences among the models of balers you mentioned is size of bales and the replacement of the floor chains with a roller. The balers with the roller in the floor give better service IMO and pack the hay tighter. Suggest you call one of the NH dealers and get the specifications of any model you are interested in.

NH now makes belt balers. They seem to be well designed balers. Generally, NH balers are made somewhat lighter than other makes. Balers vary in horsepower requirements and you have to check with the dealer on those specifications.

KEH

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