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dorset farmer

07-19-2007 11:05:50




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I've been told the New Holland tedder/rake combination neither tedds nor rakes. Any experience with the advertised Kuhn tedder/rake? Thanks, Mike




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dorset farmer

07-23-2007 08:08:32




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 Re: tedder/rake combination in reply to dorset farmer, 07-19-2007 11:05:50  
Thanks to all for your input. Mike



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havvey

07-19-2007 17:53:21




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 Re: tedder/rake combination in reply to dorset farmer, 07-19-2007 11:05:50  
One thing to add these tedd about 9 ft (or close to that) I run a 17 food tedder to get coverage fast. The sitrex brand is a good tedder and rakes and comming on strong. These seem to be value forthe part time farmer and they are priced lower then the big names.



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Cliff Neubauer

07-19-2007 17:45:02




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 Re: tedder/rake combination in reply to dorset farmer, 07-19-2007 11:05:50  
I can't comment on the Kuhn rake/tedder combination machine but we've got a Kuhn GA4120 rotary rake and a FC4000G disc conditioner and I would consider them both to be premium quality products. I used to think that Kuhn products were over rated compared to US built brands but after running Kuhn equipment I think Kuhn has earned their reputation as a dominant brand in hay equipment. We love our rotary rake and most of the time it is cutting half a day off our drying time while improving the consistancy and quality of our hay.

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mikeinont

07-19-2007 14:19:56




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 Re: tedder/rake combination in reply to dorset farmer, 07-19-2007 11:05:50  
I own a Kuhn GA300GM which I reilly like and it seems to be well made.



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RodInNS

07-19-2007 13:06:10




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 Re: tedder/rake combination in reply to dorset farmer, 07-19-2007 11:05:50  
I always found the NH 254 did a very good job of raking and builds nice even, centered rows. IT's only failing as a rake is that if you rake in it's widest position in un-tedded hay, it doesn't clean the hay off the ground in the middle. Also, if you have a light crop or are accostomed to raking much more than 13' of width, then no, it won't make a big row. It's not a huge rake.
It's to be condemned for MANY, MANY things, but the quality of it's raking is not one of them.

I've also found it does an acceptable job of tedding if it's put in it's mroe agressive "conventional" tedding mode with the tines locked up to the rotor. That will also help reduce some of the maintenance problems....

Beyond that, it's a nightmare to keep it in parts. I spose if you got one just fully rebuilt in a competent manner that you might fare out alright with it for limited use of under a hundred acres a year... Otherwise, it's cam followers, arms, hangers, cams, wheel bearings and so on. Continously. The last time I did a major on ours it was over 3 grand. IT improved it some but it's still not what I'd call reliable.

I have no experience with Kuhn's tedder/rake. I do have a Kuhn rake which I like quite well. Kuhn is generally quite well built, and expensive.
For what it's worth, I think if you're doing any amount of hay you're better off with a tedder and a rake if you need both since you're limited in how much ground you can cover in one day with one machine. We like having 2 machines. The tedder/rake was always a bottleneck for use even when it was working well.

Rod

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jimgoddard

07-19-2007 12:50:59




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 Re: tedder/rake combination in reply to dorset farmer, 07-19-2007 11:05:50  
Ive heard real good reports about the Vermeer TR90. IIRC its a Lely 300 which also had a very good reputation.



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Tim(nj)

07-19-2007 12:40:59




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 Re: tedder/rake combination in reply to dorset farmer, 07-19-2007 11:05:50  
The NH 254 I have works great as a tedder, however, has the same problems with raking that havvey has stated. The 254 is also maintenance intensive. 255 model fixed a lot of those problems. Like most 2-in-1 machines, it does fair at both jobs, but not as well as the individual machines it is replacing. For what a New Holland 255 costs, I'd spend the money on a 2-rotor tedder and a rake.



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havvey

07-19-2007 11:38:16




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 Re: tedder/rake combination in reply to dorset farmer, 07-19-2007 11:05:50  
mine works ok, they are good for small isolated fields. (2 in one gadget) They don't seem to rake a wide swath and you can,t double windrow etc. mine is a kuhn 3pth takes a little more time to hook up. Not suitable for older non 3pth tractors.



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