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Timothy Cutting Schedule question

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Joe in IN

07-19-2007 05:38:41




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I have read TImothy cannot withstand 4 cuts a year. I have witnessed this first hand on my first ever hay field. Timothy quickly disappeared....

But how often can you cut timothy?

I have a real nice timothy field with alfalfa, Normally it is mostly timothy, but with no rain to speak of this summer, the field looks like an alfalfa field(that I would like to cut). i won't get much grass but want the alfalfa hay and not hurt the timothy.

I cut 6/9, so by sunday it will have been 43 days, I figure another 43 days puts me a week into september.

Currently most of the grass is 4-5 inches tall...

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kyhayman

07-19-2007 07:07:37




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 Re: Timothy Cutting Schedule question in reply to Joe in IN, 07-19-2007 05:38:41  
All depends on where you are in timothy's preferred growth range. The further south you go the shorter the lifespan is. I've seen Canadian fields that had been established 10-15 years. Normally I get 4-5 years out of a stand regardless of a pure stand or with something else. Kentucky (and parts of southern Indiana) are well outside its growth range. It still grows here but becomes a one cutting crop. Second cutting just isnt economical in a pure stand. Thats one reason I like it so much. I can put it with alfalfa, get a really pretty green horse hay as a first cutting, then later cuttings have a much higher percentage of alfalfa than the stand would indicate since the timothy is so short.

One of the big drawbacks to having it in a mixed stand is it has a shallow root system. With alfalfa, in dry conditions, it just cant keep enough water under it.

Nutrition-wise, I've found it to be a heavier potash consumer than I anticipated. It doesnt show the deficiency symptoms that you would expect to see on corn, alfalfa, or some other crops yet my yield responses to muriate of potash have been equal to those from ammonium nitrate.

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Joe in IN

07-19-2007 08:57:17




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 Re: Timothy Cutting Schedule question in reply to kyhayman, 07-19-2007 07:07:37  
Thanks Hayman,

I am In Lafayette Indiana between Indy and Chicago. My timothy field looks like an alfalfa field now, where before first it looks like a grass field. So sounds to me to be similiar to your fields(I must be doing something correct).

So it will not hurt it to cut the alfalfa on a 35-40 day basis for 2nd or 3rd...

What kind of yield do you get on 1st cutting w/ timothy? Not sure what to expect as this was a weird weather year....

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kyhayman

07-19-2007 19:48:59




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 Re: Timothy Cutting Schedule question in reply to Joe in IN, 07-19-2007 08:57:17  
Sounds just perfect to me. I do normally like to overseed a little timothy into my mixed stands every couple of yaars. Keeps it from getting too stemmy.

As to yields, I normally get 250-260 or so square bales per acre (6 ton or a little better yield). Yield wise, I anticipate getting at least half the total yield out of the first cutting. with the balance coming in at 35 to 40 bales per acre per cutting out of the later ones. Usually cutting 3, following a modest fertilizing is my biggest. SOmetimes breaks 50. Good years, with good water, I've broken 180 on first cutting but its rare. I had some state fair records a few times, but like I say, its rare.

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barnrat

07-19-2007 06:19:31




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 Re: Timothy Cutting Schedule question in reply to Joe in IN, 07-19-2007 05:38:41  
Timothy is not a very heat tolerant grass so in mid summer it tends to go dormant. Where alfalfa can tolerate the hot dry weather a lot better. I wouldn't worry the timothy is there as it's a pretty tough grass to kill. I have timothy mixed in most of my fields with other grasses on my dairy farm in SW New York. I cut 4-5 cuttings per year or every 28 days starting in mid May. I wont see much timothy this time of year but it'll be back next spring.

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georgeky

07-19-2007 06:13:49




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 Re: Timothy Cutting Schedule question in reply to Joe in IN, 07-19-2007 05:38:41  
With Timothy it is a once a year deal. Or it always has been for me. I have raised some Timothy off and on most my farming life and have never had any second cutting Timothy. I always sow clover or alfalfa with it so I have something to cut later on or graze it.



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