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Need to buy PTO shaft U-joints

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Doyle Alley

07-18-2007 06:22:15




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It"s time to replace the u-joints on my PTO shaft. I have no idea what brand of shaft I have (it"s quite old). Is there a universal size of u-joint for all (or most) shafts, or is each brand different? If different, how would I go about identifying the size?

Also, is there a decent on-line retail source for these things?




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Gerald J.

07-18-2007 08:48:06




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 Re: Need to buy PTO shaft U-joints in reply to Doyle Alley, 07-18-2007 06:22:15  
Baum Hydraulics has a very extensive collection in their catalog. They might have that information on line.

Taking the pieces with you is always a benefit to the matching process.

Gerald J.



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RodInNS

07-18-2007 06:53:17




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 Re: Need to buy PTO shaft U-joints in reply to Doyle Alley, 07-18-2007 06:22:15  
It depends on what it is.... The old square shafts were often made by Spicer, and they'll often have a heavy steel shield on them... and they were TOP quality shafts.
Most replacement parts for those things today that dealers cary are made by Weasler, and are of about 1/4 the quality of Spicer components. If this was on something like a NH machine, I'd honestly look at buying the parts from NH and see if it comes with Spicer markings on it. I can tell you that I've used a couple old spicer shafts interchangeably as spares on my rock rake for several years now and I've yet to break the red shaft..... The weaslers snap yolks and chew cross kits for fun.
Anyhow, that said.... there was a 12, 14, 35, 44, and 55 series shaft. Most likely you're dealing with a 14 or 35 I would think. The others were used in extremly light or heavy applications.

If it's anything other than a square bar shaft, then it's metric. That could be a Bondolini & Pavesi (3 sided) or WalterSchied (teardrop or 2 sided).... Both very good shafts as well.

To make a long story short, whatever you have, you measure the distance across the cross from cap end to cap end or snap ring to snap ring if it's an outer ring type retainer. Jot that down and then measure the cup diameter. That should be all you need to know. Just remember that if it's a square shaft, those measurements are standard. IF it's metric, those measurements are metric, given in millimeters.

Rod

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J Schwiebert

07-18-2007 06:35:20




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 Re: Need to buy PTO shaft U-joints in reply to Doyle Alley, 07-18-2007 06:22:15  
AS was mentioned there are different sizes. The first thing to do is take accurate measurements of the distance across the bearing caps. The next thing to do is to take the shaft apart and measure the O. D. of the bearing caps and the diameter of the bearings on the cross. Start there. Old shaft companies have been absorbed by Spicer and Meritoir. More questions?



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A-C hayman

07-18-2007 06:27:50




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 Re: Need to buy PTO shaft U-joints in reply to Doyle Alley, 07-18-2007 06:22:15  
Most medium sized pto shafts are either a #12 or a #14 u-joint, I'm purty shure. You can get them at any farm supply store. The USA made ones will last longer than the chineese ones, But the us ones are about $30 and foriegn are about $10. There are lots of sizes, but providing it's not metric it's probally a 12 or 14.



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Doyle Alley

07-18-2007 07:35:47




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 Re: Need to buy PTO shaft U-joints in reply to A-C hayman, 07-18-2007 06:27:50  
Thanks guys. The shaft is square. I think the easiest thing to do will be to pull the joint out (I'm assuming both are the same) and take it with me.



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