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Which baler will be the best in the long run??

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redgrizzly

07-11-2007 13:09:26




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Hi, sorry to bother you guys but I don"t have anybody to ask questions of. I"m looking for a baler and I"v got some choices. a 270 NH $400.00 decent shape, a 230 Case $250.00 or a 14T JD for $600. I don"t have that many acres to bale, but i don"t have time for down time either. Plus I"d like to bale cornstalks, and the super 66 NH I tried that with was not up to the challenge. Thanks for any input.

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redgrizzly

07-12-2007 22:20:49




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 Re: Which baler will be the best in the long run?? in reply to redgrizzly, 07-11-2007 13:09:26  
Well, I want to thank all you guys that responded. I went ahead and got a 270, looks in real nice shape. The guys baled 70 bales with her a couple days ago just to shine everything up. never missed a bale. he said to use the 7200 ft twine, not the 9000 ft because the 9000 was thinner and caused problems. Now I need a manual, How fast do you drive 3..4 mph? and do you run at 540 rpm or play it by ear? thanks.

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Jason Simmerman

07-14-2007 16:31:52




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 Re: Which baler will be the best in the long run?? in reply to redgrizzly, 07-12-2007 22:20:49  
I've run both a New Holland 68 and a New Holland 310 and you just can't run wide open with em. We have used both a Farmall 450 and a Farmall M to bale with and you want to keep it about 3/4 throttle or so. The proofmeter on the 450 doesn't work, but I'm gonna guess that's pretty close to 540 on the pto. If I ran it too fast, the knotters would miss. The fastest we have baled is 2nd gear with both the 68 and the 310 with eithor the M or 450 tractors. To be honest though if you are just learning leave it in first gear and take your time. Getting in a hurry never works out in the long run and that applies to just about anything in life.

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RayP(MI)

07-14-2007 15:18:06




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 Re: Which baler will be the best in the long run?? in reply to redgrizzly, 07-12-2007 22:20:49  
Your ground speed will be determined by two things. 1. Your takeup should be keeping up with or exceeding ground speed, hay will be pulled up from the windrow, moving faster than ground speed. 2. Go slow wnough that there is never a pileup of hay in the takeup chamber. You"ll have to unclog one only once to learn this lesson! If you have clumps or bunches in your windrows, learn to attack them slowly. Independent PTO or 2 stage clutch on your tractor makes this much easier. You can bale without independent PTO however. Done a lot that way. Have to be careful though!

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redgrizzly

07-12-2007 08:03:56




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 Re: Which baler will be the best in the long run?? in reply to redgrizzly, 07-11-2007 13:09:26  
Thanks for the info. I"m in Minnesota near Mankato, south central part of the state. I think I"ll go with the NH because there are a few around for parts balers. Thanks again.



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Shovelman

07-12-2007 04:32:17




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 Re: Which baler will be the best in the long run?? in reply to redgrizzly, 07-11-2007 13:09:26  
We have a 270 and it has been a good baler. The only drawbacks are the pickup is a bit narrow and the hitch is short. If you have a larger tractor, you may find yourself driving on the windrows.

Even though it is a smaller capacity baler, it can handle fairly large windrows and it is reliable. Most parts are still available.

Another consideration is your dealer. We run mostly NH equipment, primarily because we have a dealer close by who stocks parts. Our local Deere dealer is geared toward lawn mowers which isn't much help when you have hay down and need a part fast.

Good luck,
Scott

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Lincoln

07-11-2007 19:23:55




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 Re: Which baler will be the best in the long run?? in reply to redgrizzly, 07-11-2007 13:09:26  
My money would be on the New Holland. Price is right if it is in good shape. I was told there was one model somewhere between a 269, 270, and 271 that has parts that won't interchange with the rest of New holland's balers. I don't remember which one it was, but make sure it isn't the 270. I have a 268 that should have been scraped many years ago, but it keeps right on ticking and rarely misses a bale.

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old

07-11-2007 16:31:24




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 Re: Which baler will be the best in the long run?? in reply to redgrizzly, 07-11-2007 13:09:26  
Well If it where me I'd go with the NH 270 if it works as it should, then the JD14T would be my 2nd choice. On the case I would run away from it because who knows how hard parts would be to find for it. The reason I say the NH first is because of price and there good machines. The JD-14T is a good one also but for that price the better buy if they both work well is the NH. I just got a NH271 up and running this last couple weeks I hope that is. It was a fence row machine that we saved from the scrap yard and so far its not doing to bad

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OCB

07-11-2007 16:29:14




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 Re: Which baler will be the best in the long run?? in reply to redgrizzly, 07-11-2007 13:09:26  
Which part of the country do you live. I saw a JD 14T sell last night for $350, just looked to be a low bale count but more rust than my $125 rebuilt and worn JD 14T. Both are complete except for PTO Sheild and wagon towing draw bar



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Rich Iowa

07-11-2007 15:40:33




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 Re: Which baler will be the best in the long run?? in reply to redgrizzly, 07-11-2007 13:09:26  
I would stick with NH or JD, they seem to know what they're doing when it comes to knotters. Does either brand have a dealer near you, closer the better to get parts for when there is hay on the ground and a storm is coming. My friend swears by New Holland and I've been using a John Deere 14T for couple years and have had good luck with it. Not sure about the NH but the 14T is 50-60 years old, but little care and it'll keep kicking. Where you located? I have 3 14Ts for sale right now and I might make you a deal, I'm in central Iowa

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Iowa Farm Boy

07-11-2007 13:43:48




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 Re: Which baler will be the best in the long run?? in reply to redgrizzly, 07-11-2007 13:09:26  
I can"t speak about those particular models you listed, but I"ve got a JD 214T (updated version of 14T) and I love it. It has the same knotters as the 14 and they work good. When I bought it, I went through the knotters, sharpened the twine cutting blades, and retimed it even though it seemed to work fine. It now rarely misses a bale. I prefer John Deere because they seem to support even the old stuff. You might want to check on that with the others. Good Luck!

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Jason Simmerman

07-11-2007 14:16:53




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 Re: Which baler will be the best in the long run?? in reply to Iowa Farm Boy, 07-11-2007 13:43:48  
Well, your two real choices here are the New Holland and the John Deere. I wouldn't think about the Case, because Lord knows if you can get parts for it. New Holland has good support for their older stuff as well as John Deere. New Holland like John Deere really hasn't changed much on their balers in the last 50 years, they just updated things here and there. New Holland's hay equipment is considered top notch by most in the industry, but John Deere isn't bad eithor. I'd honestly base my decision on the two balers by dealer availability and your gut feeling as to which one was better taken care of. Because anybody on here will tell you it isn't if you break something it's when and how bad you break it.

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