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Bale Shape (NH271)

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Flewster

07-06-2007 19:36:12




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OK. I took the thing apart today because 3 of the 4 hay dogs were rusted shut. They would not budge. I took them out and got them all working and put it back together. I adjusted the front set of tines in all the way in like the book says and moved the second set out a bit. ALOT OF IMPROVEMENT to say the least. Some bales are still a little longer on the right looking from the back of the baler to the front, but not by much, 2 to 4 inches. I am not sure though which side to tighten down though as I am still new to this. do you tighten down the side that is longer or shorter?
Thank God for this forum because it has got me this far. When I got this baler it made the prettiest bannana bale you ever did see. I have 700 in the barn to prove it. Now they are almost perfect. Just need to know how to make that final adjustment.

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Flewster

07-06-2007 21:43:37




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 Re: Bale Shape (NH271) in reply to Flewster, 07-06-2007 19:36:12  
Yes some bales are good and some are not so good. Although the not so good are great comparedd to what it was doing. This baler obviously had set out in the rain with hay in it because thebale chamber is quite rusted, pitted and has rust scales. There are 4 hay dogs and on the sides are 4 other fixed restrictors. On the side that is shorter there is one, the farthest back, that is about half rusted out. I am going to call the NH dealer tomorrow and order 4 new ones if they are carried still. Maybe that will make a difference. I do believe what you say about driving. trouble is this is my father-in-laws field and he raked HUGE windrows. I cane barly get going in 1 low and I have still plugged it up a few times and sheared a bolt. So that could be part of the problem too. I have heard that incossistant windrows cause problems. But I thnk for the most part the problem is licked. BTW it is wire tie if that makes a difference.

Thnak you.

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Sid

07-06-2007 21:08:20




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 Re: Bale Shape (NH271) in reply to Flewster, 07-06-2007 19:36:12  
"Some bales are still" indicates you are getting some good bales. Congrats on that success. I am making this statement based on my experience and what some more experienced baler operators and baler mechanics have told me. It really does not make that much difference if one side is screwed down a little more than the other. The part that restricts the material being pushed through the baler is in the center of the chamber not one on the left and one on the right. How the material is fed into the chamber is the biggest factor in making uniform bales sometimes you can do this by driving a little bit to the left or right of the windrow instead of dead center of windrow. I have read some New Holland literature about a false back in the sweep area of the baler behind the pick up. This I understand helps. Another thing that affects feeding is ground speed. If hay is bunching up in front of pickup=too fast. Pick up is pulling hay in ahead of the baler causing an interuption in flow = too slow. A side note I saw a guy trying to bale and was kicking out banana bales. He was getting a little rough with the guy that he brought it from until the guy got on the tractor and kicked out about fifty uniform bales just by driving. He made no adjustments to the baler. Another thing to look for. Does your baler have wedges in the sides of the chamber. If it does are they equal? (Same number on each side, any damage to one one of them loose or whatever.) The next thing I would mention is twine tension. To check this to be exact take a small spring scale and see how many pound it takes to pull the twine through the hoops and tension point. If twine is considerably looser on one side the string on that side will be longer on that side. Leaving obvious results. Like I said these are things that I have learned from experience and from other operators. They work for me and have worked for others. I hope they are helpful to you. There are other little quirks that you will pickup on if you watch your machine, see what it is doing compared to what it is supposed to be doing

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07-06-2007 20:00:39




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 Re: Bale Shape (NH271) in reply to Flewster, 07-06-2007 19:36:12  
Tighten the side that is longer. I will be haveing the fun you are tomorrow or the next day. I have a 271 I pulled out of the weeds a few years ago and hope to have it working. But I will not know if it will till I put some hay in it and see what happens



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