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NH Hayliner 68 Bailer Question

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IA Tim

07-02-2007 06:36:50




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I have a NH 68 small square that one string is tight and the other is loose throwing bails that are near impossible to handle. Tried adjusting the forks on the accumulater and no change. Did notice that one set of forks is curved and the other set is straight. Anyone have any ideas on how to get this corrected? Do I need to have both sets of forks straight, both sets curved, or one curved the other straight?
Thanks.

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Kelly C

07-03-2007 07:29:21




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 Re: NH Hayliner 68 Bailer Question in reply to IA Tim, 07-02-2007 06:36:50  
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Hello.
Also remember to bale with the windrow as close to the plunger side of the pick up as yopu can get. This helps to charge the hay to the far side of the chamber.
Here is the part number for the hay stops. You need 4 of these. 32124 hay stop = need 4 3.31 total $13.24

My 68 came with 3 sets of the aluminum fingers instead of 2. I think they were added by the previous owner. Seems to work real good pushing that hay into the chamber. Never have had a bannanna out of mine.

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IA Tim

07-03-2007 06:23:38




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 Re: NH Hayliner 68 Bailer Question in reply to IA Tim, 07-02-2007 06:36:50  
Thanks for all the replies; I'll let you know how we make out. I did order the manual so hopefully that helps too.



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Our Farmer

07-03-2007 05:05:13




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 Re: NH Hayliner 68 Bailer Question in reply to IA Tim, 07-02-2007 06:36:50  
Just been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

First thing is those hay dogs. They are L shaped pieces of cast iron that hold the hay from springing back into the chamber toward the plunger. There are 3 of them on the 68, two top, one bottom. Be sure the springs are good and they are operating properly. Those babies make all the difference in the world.

Second, the twine tensioner plates. Mine was so worn out on one side the twine would just pull through no matter how tight I made that little spring. You want about 10 lbs resistance as you pull a string through toward the needles.

Third, be sure your plunger clearance is adjusted properly. Too much on top or side-to-side will cause you problems. You want about 1/8" clearance on top and about 1/32" at the knife in the middle where it crosses the anvil.

Finally, be sure the wedges in the bale chamber haven't collapsed on you. There's also a hay stop in the pick-up chamber that looks like a flap with a spring holding it down. Keeps hay from being pushed out of the chamber as the plunger compresses. Makes a difference too.

The way it works is that the bale is tied when tightly compressed, and as bale exits toward the back of the machine the bale expands and tightens the strings. If the bales is never compressed properly, the strings'll never get tight.

Mine looked real good as they came out of the machine, but after a few minutes in the wagon they would look like parentheses (. The hay dogs and twine plate did the trick. Makes real tight, square bales now. I was just about ready to set it on fire before.

Other thing. Remember every field of hay is different, and you'll probably have to reset the tension springs every time you bale, sometime two or three times during the day.

Good luck, let us know how you make out.

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sooner

07-05-2007 04:45:55




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 Re: NH Hayliner 68 Bailer Question in reply to Our Farmer, 07-03-2007 05:05:13  
I have the same problem. I have the 68 manual and can find no information on the Hay dogs or the Hay stop. Would you have a picture of these two parts? Do all 68 balers have these parts or just the newer ones. Thanks Dave



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D.Gage

07-02-2007 19:34:38




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 Re: NH Hayliner 68 Bailer Question in reply to IA Tim, 07-02-2007 06:36:50  
The forks on the accumlator may be worn down too much also. I had that problem on my NH 67. But for the price of the manuals, order one from New Holland. They are invaluable when if comes to adjusting these balers.
Doug



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Dave Anderson

07-02-2007 17:59:59




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 Re: NH Hayliner 68 Bailer Question in reply to IA Tim, 07-02-2007 06:36:50  
Also check the hay dogs and springs, under the Knotter assemblies, lots of times, the springs rust out as the debris that collects there is acidic.



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Gumby

07-02-2007 14:30:40




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 Re: NH Hayliner 68 Bailer Question in reply to IA Tim, 07-02-2007 06:36:50  
One suggestion is to make sure there are the "bale wedges" in the bale chute (the part down stream from the knotters); these are stamped steel wedges that bolt in from the sides of the chute. If a wedge or two have rusted out and been pushed out, then the hay won't be held in place on both sides evenly and could lead to bannana bales. I've got an old Super 68 baler and I think there are supposed to be at least two on each side. My newer model 273 has three on each side.

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