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ChrisLSD

06-25-2007 19:19:37




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went to TSC and bought a $215 roll of net wrap to use in my $200 baler (we will see if my invention works so I can actually net wrap or not) should know results tomorrow

I guess I never thought about the fact that when I pay $30 for a box of twine for my free square baler (Allis 442 - works great now)the twine was costing more than the baler there also




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msb

06-26-2007 18:36:49




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 Re: holy cow - the price of twine - in reply to ChrisLSD, 06-25-2007 19:19:37  
If you think twine is high, price some baling wire. $50 a box is as cheap as I have seen it and it takes 2 boxes to start with.



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Bob/wis

06-26-2007 13:13:55




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 Re: holy cow - the price of twine - in reply to ChrisLSD, 06-25-2007 19:19:37  
Hey Chris what kind of baler did you modify? I been fighting a Deutz baler on and off and would love to convert it to wrap. I finally got my OMC 590 back rolling again. Just love that little baler.
Bob



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ChrisLSD

06-26-2007 19:28:04




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 Re: holy cow - the price of twine - in reply to Bob/wis, 06-26-2007 13:13:55  
well i didn't really convert it - but the twine takes so long - and I am not to good at it I decided to try the net wrap -

it is on an old IH 241

right now i cut the 36' pieces of net wrap for each bale in my garage - and wrap them around a pvc pipe - when the bale gets done - i slide the pvc tube right in above the pickup ( it sticks out both sides so it doesn't go in) take the end of the wrap and shove it in where the hay goes in - turn it on - and it is done - open the gate -

you have to realize i am only talking about maybe 15 bales a year or so - so time is not a big deal

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johns48jdb

06-26-2007 04:01:10




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 Re: holy cow - the price of twine - in reply to ChrisLSD, 06-25-2007 19:19:37  
hey rusty, you don't sound to rusty and it good to here from the younger people such as yourself. the finned wheel was the main drive wheel and in order to give it enough traction to run the machinery it had fins on it for grip. i bought a mule drawn planter, one row, once that had barbered wire wrapped around the wheel. it had been ran so much that the knobs on it were worn off and they wrapped the barbered wire on it to make it have traction again.

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GeneMO

06-25-2007 20:49:36




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 Re: holy cow - the price of twine - in reply to ChrisLSD, 06-25-2007 19:19:37  
If you have a real job, sell the danged cows, rent everything out to a tennant,set back and take it easy. It just aint worth it!!!!

My wife had made pets of the cows, to me they were just cows. I sold the cows to a neighbor, paid off the note, and dont worry about a danged thing now. The native grass needs cutting now, but know what? I dont care!!!


Gene



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D.Gage

06-25-2007 19:31:15




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 Re: holy cow - the price of twine - in reply to ChrisLSD, 06-25-2007 19:19:37  
I noticed today the price was $45.00 for Sisal twine at my Case dealership in Ontario.
Doug



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Rustyj14.

06-25-2007 19:52:53




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 Re: holy cow - the price of twine - in reply to D.Gage, 06-25-2007 19:31:15  
When my Grampaw had the farm, way back in the thirties, i guess i should have bought a truckload of "binder twine" Which was the popular name for it in these parts! (Western Pa.) I don't know how much a roll cost back then, but you can bet it weren't$40 and up! Now, maybe you younger fellers don't know what a McCormick "binder" was, what with all the modern machinery. To a ten-twelve year old kid, it was a wondrous machine! Oh, how i watched it as it cut the stalks, sent them along on a slatted sheet of canvas, then up a sloped area, and then the machine did some more gyrations, and out the other end came a bundle of the grain, all neatly tied, and then it was kicked off the machine, to be picked up by the helpers, and stood 3-4 to a bundle, with another thrown on top! Never did figure out how it did all that, as it was pulled along by the team. Seemed to me that the big wheel, with the fins on it, had a lot to do with the operation! That wheel was never used on the road, getting from one field to another. There were 2 other wheels that were taken off for the wheat or oats harvesting, then put back on for towing it back to the barn! Well, all of the"old folks" are long gone, and now I'm the old folks! Going on 83! Still have most of my health and wits! Hope i can keep them for a spell yet!

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Sam#3

06-26-2007 12:42:54




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 Re: holy cow - the price of twine - in reply to Rustyj14., 06-25-2007 19:52:53  
Well old timer before you outlive all us young whipper snappers I'll bring you up to date. Binder twine was a lot different than baler twine. I haven't seen any in so many years I can't honestly compare them but binder twine was much smaller and lighter. Everybody kept a roll around for tying and 'fixen.' It would work for fixen things when you didn't want to use 'balen war.'
The big wheel was called the bull wheel and yes they moved them on the dolly wheels because the binders were wider than most roads. The helpers were called 'shockers' because the formed the bundles into 'shocks.' Ten bundles to a shock including the two for caps. The binders required a lot of skill to make a good set of bundles. If the crop was uniform the cutting height and tie height could be set and run without much effort but if the height varied a lot the operator had to constantly adjust. Then there was the drop point. The norm was five bundles then drop on the first round. After that the drop was supposed to be kept straight. If not the operator would catch **it from the shockers because they�d have carry the bundles back to the line. By the way they tied the same way a baler does, by FM. I�ll let you guess what kind of magic.
I guess I can call you 'old timer' cuz I'm sixty-eight. Live long and prosper.
Sam

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El Toro

06-26-2007 06:56:29




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 Re: holy cow - the price of twine - in reply to Rustyj14., 06-25-2007 19:52:53  
Our neighbor had a threshing machine and did custom threshing for the farmers in the area. He had a 15-30 McCormick Deering tractor on solid rubber wheels that he used only for belt work.

I was in my teens back in the 1940's and I followed it where ever he was threshing. They always needed extra help and for the time the pay was good for that period of time at $1.00 an hour.
They fed you like kings too. Gas was about $.18 cents a gallon. In 1949 when we were doing the last farmers threshing they were blowing the straw into the barn's straw mow and had the threshing machine backed into the doorway of the barn. The straw came in contact with a light bulb and started a fire. The owner of the threshing machine jumped off and got on the 15-30
to pull the machine away from from the barn. With those solid tires it would just spin and the barn and threshing machine was lost. There wasn't many dry eyes around there. Hal

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Michael Soldan

06-26-2007 04:36:31




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 Re: holy cow - the price of twine - in reply to Rustyj14., 06-25-2007 19:52:53  
My Dad rigged the binder from horse drawn to tractor drawn which meant that someone had to ride the binder and trip the sheaves off the carriage, our McCormick had a foot trip. Binder twine was much finer than sisal baler twine. I had two bolls of binder twine around for years after the binders disappeared off the face of the earth. I paid $39 for sisal and $40 for plastic fot the round baler



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georgeky

06-25-2007 20:43:32




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 Re: holy cow - the price of twine - in reply to Rustyj14., 06-25-2007 19:52:53  
Old technology was wonderful. I am not old enough to remember when lots of this stuff was used on large scale, but have seen it work and it is a sight to see.



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