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hay master

06-20-2007 06:28:22

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I am considering purchasing a late 60's Ford combine, I believe it's a 622 model, 6 cyl gas with a 13' grain head from a small dealer. He is asking $900. It sat for quite a few years and he claims it has low hours. He also stated he ran beans with it last fall and it worked good. What should I look for on this, besides the obvious belts, motor leaks, etc. This is basically a starter combine for me as I have been in the hay business for years and now wish to plant beans, wheat and oats to feed the hayburners in the pasture. I am only going to do maybe 5 acres with it.

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RodInNS

06-20-2007 15:09:53

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Re: need your input in reply to hay master, 06-20-2007 06:28:22

If I'm not mistaken (and I might be), that combine was built by Claas for Ford. If it's like anything else that Claas built, it'll probably run 2 circles around everything else, balls to the wall, before the others make any dust. That said, it's an old machine, and there's a lot to be said for having something very common. Nothing of that vintage in combines is too well supported anymore, so it's worth it to have something that you can scrounge parts for.
I think if you were to spend a bit more money and get yourself into an F Gleaner, you might be a lot further ahead... It pains me to suggest Deere, and I have an IH 615 that ought to be burnt... There were a fair number of Gleaners around this general area, that were decent machines.... but Deere was and still is the most common. From what I've seen of this IH, it leaves a lot to be desired.

Rod

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evilboweviel

06-20-2007 10:46:25

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Re: need your input in reply to hay master, 06-20-2007 06:28:22

if you buy any gas combine make sure no fuel leaks and keep it clean specially around the engine area. run for a while at full speed with everything moving and then check bearing temps as bearings can catch your combine on fire also
ron

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paul

06-20-2007 09:50:01

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Re: need your input in reply to hay master, 06-20-2007 06:28:22

I would look for a model of old combine that was _very_ popular in the area 30-40 years ago. This will allow you to fix it up as things break, and you could resell it for something in a 5 years again.

There were very, very few Ford combines sold around "here", so it would be difficult to buy one of those. "Here." you end up with the only one. If it breaks, you end up trying to fabricate a repair at the local welding shop.

"Here" a Gleaner K or F series, as well as the JD models mentioned, with gas engine, go for about the price you mentioned, & the dealers actually have parts in stock on the shelf for these machines.

If Ford was popular in your area, might be ok. I couldn"t afford to own one "here" if it were given to me.....

--->Paul

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Farm with Scrap Iron

06-20-2007 09:42:05

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Re: need your input in reply to hay master, 06-20-2007 06:28:22

IMHO, I'd look for a JD 55 SP or a JD 65 PT square back (last models made late '60s). They're well made, quite common, overbuilt (some parts common with larger 95/105 models), and lots of new or salvage parts out there. They come with either an in house gas (I think there's two sizes made) or diesel motor either of which are reliable. The only weak spot can be the flat conveyor chain under the cylinder that carries the grain onto the sieves - it's usually not a fun time if it piles up!
HTH.

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Rich Va

06-20-2007 07:40:33

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Re: need your input in reply to hay master, 06-20-2007 06:28:22

I would keep looking.

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Rexalot

06-20-2007 20:28:22

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Re: need your input in reply to Rich Va, 06-20-2007 07:40:33

Nobody really answered your question, other than to tell you to look at Deere or Gleaner, staying away from IH.

I myself don't have any combine experience other than an Old JD 55 we had on our farm 25 years ago so I'll stay out of the what's better.. Green, Red, Galvanized, or Blue...

Price is what it is and probably negotiable... that said, what kind of parts support do you have available? If you have any at all, pick a few random items like the sickle bar, drive belts, or a shaft bearing. Call or visit the place that supports the machine and see what is available and the costs.

For no more ground than you intend to cover the combine will probably do just fine, even if it requires a few "band-aids". My only concern would be your initial investment at $900. Then again if it's ready to go as is and doesn't need rubber or other high dollar items that may not be all that out of line for a few years worth of fun.

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RodInNS

06-21-2007 17:46:52

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Re: need your input in reply to Rexalot, 06-20-2007 20:28:22

With all due respect, I think the question was more or less answered. More bluntly, heartache is likely what this thing will bring.
I can well imagine the response from a NewHolland dealership regarding a parts inquiry. Six Twenty whaaaaa aaaaa aaat? Put politely, supporting something that Ford remarketed for Claas 30 or 40 years ago is not at the top of NewHolland's corporate priority list these days. Unless a fella knew for sure which combine it was from Claas, and knows whether or not Claas is still supporting it, then it's an excercise in scrounging used or FABRICATING parts. That's what I'm doing with my 615 IH, and it gets bloody old after a while, because they don't support it. Period. Most dealers can't even be bothered to look for parts. They just pass you along to somebody else that MIGHT. So... taking a pass on this old gremlin, however good it may be, might still be the best thing to do unless one is prepared to do everything the hard way.

Rod

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