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PZ Zweegers drum Cyclomower

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Lew Best

06-18-2007 20:51:52




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Hey gang

An old drum mower followed me home today (along with a junker for parts; nuther junker still sitting awaiting me to pick it up).

First question; can't find a model number. It has 4 drums approximately 21" diameter; 2 flat blades each; only plate says GA0013830 (probably the serial number). Any ideas?

Second question; I had one of these many years ago but can't recall how to remove the "pans" on the drum bottoms. IIRC it was rather simple (but don't want to break something due to "senior moment"; need to get one off as the prior owner said last year when he quit using it the drum nearest the tractor would stop turning in heavy, high grass. From the junker I brought home (has 2 of the 4 drums gone) I can see where a key goes in the shaft & drum to keep the drum from slipping. Figure there's one at the top for each gear also for keeping the gear from slipping but the bottom one is the easiest to check. With the pan off & weight off I figure I can maybe make it slip & see whether it's the bottom or one of the top ones.

Any info. tips, etc. appreciated!

Lew Best near Waco, TX

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Garry_TX

06-19-2007 18:38:03




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 Re: PZ Zweegers drum Cyclomower in reply to Lew Best, 06-18-2007 20:51:52  
Am running an old 165 pz (2 drums - 5" cut), assuming your 4 is set up similiar.....been a long time since I"ve had to go into it, & my memory isn"t "photogenic" either..! but will try to give a quick, but (will be lengthy) written diagragm (probably not exact though).

The bottom saucer has 3 allen head bolts holding it to the bottom of the "hub" drum. Depending on wear, there may not be a whole lot to get hold of to unscrew. The bearings that the saucer rides on, are kept on the bottom of the drum shaft with a split ring in a groove on the drum shaft, that sets into a type of housing (that stays in the center of the saucer). The shaft is pressed into the hub that the blade carriers & the outer/actual drum are bolted to.

The drum shaft (with a cone shaped outer covering that covers the most part of the shaft) goes up through the bottom of the "tray", oil seals & bearings, etc.. Pinion (may not be the correct label??) gears that are on a 45 degree, shims, spacers, nuts & keepers, comprise the connection between the drum shaft & the horizontal shaft that drives everything.

A keyway on the drumshaft, holds the drumshaft gear to turn the drum,(a series of shims, of different thicknesses, under the gear, but (I think?)on top of the bearing, to align it with the gear on the drive shaft to the proper setting (backlash? - again, I know there is a proper term for what it is called,but not sure I am right??!)

The gears on the horizontal drive shaft also have keyways, shims & spacers to get everthing lined up with the proper clearances, but are also held in place with internal rings.

To remove the horizantal drive shaft to remove the drums, takes a series of back & forth movements to get all the gears unhooked (keeper rings removed) so that the horizontal shaft will slide & let you get to the keeper & nut that actually holds the drum/drum shaft in its location.

Sounds really complicated, but once you figure out the sequence, is actually quite simple, just lots of steps that have to be in the proper order.

---& now a tidbit from my past ---

The "first" pz that I ran -- was doing the same as you describe.....one drum would not stay turning..... .(was an old "scrapped" cutter, picked up for the "hauling off" -- had to buy the drive shaft from him though as he was using it on another piece of equipment)

The keeper (that is supposed to keep the nut that holds the drum /shaft in place in relation to the drive gears) was stripped, let the nut back off, which ruined the threads.....got everything back in place (best I could), used big washers to shim with & welded a large washer to the top of the shaft to hold everthing. Ran that cutter for about 4 years til one of the cast iron "hubs") that holds the blade carriers & the actual drum, decided to disintegrate.

Good luck with it,

Garry

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Lew Best

06-19-2007 19:04:03




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 Re: PZ Zweegers drum Cyclomower in reply to Garry_TX, 06-19-2007 18:38:03  
Thanks Garry!

Got it off the trailer today but not flipped over; wanted to run it as bit & see what it actually does but couldn't find my cat 2 center link. Got a brand new one SOMEWHERE around here. Found blades on the net; any source for other parts around this great state of TX that you know of? BTW where are you? I'm near Waco

Lew



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Garry_TX

06-20-2007 02:37:21




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 Re: PZ Zweegers drum Cyclomower in reply to Lew Best, 06-19-2007 19:04:03  
I"m in Lufkin, but fixing to head towards your part of the country. I drive a belly dump, will be hauling out of Kosse & Groesbeck the rest of the week.

I order my blades through Southern Tractor (local tractor/implement/ dealer) here in Lufkin. Tractor supply also stocks a few blades, but only 3 to the package.

Tyler County Tractor in Woodville is where I bought (used) the old cutter I am now using, been several years but I would think they would still have at least information to get parts. Don"t know if I can get parts or not - never had to so far!

later
glc

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Lew Best

06-20-2007 04:49:29




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 Re: PZ Zweegers drum Cyclomower in reply to Garry_TX, 06-20-2007 02:37:21  
Ok; Thanks!

I'll check TSC; gotta go there to get a top link this morning. :(

I found this one (or these 3 I guess you'd say since I got the 2 "parts junkers") from an individual near Greenville. Came up on Craigslist. sickleservice.com lists the blades for $1 each but nothing else.

Lew



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