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Wapiti

06-10-2007 19:41:40




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I just picked up an old, looks very old, wind row rake. The guy I picked it up from said he just put a quart of oil (40 wt) in it every year (changing it).

I looked on the gear box, and it says use 1Q SAE 110.

First, what exactly is SAE 110? Gear oil? heavier I suppose? I'm no little about oil

Next, how much damage do you think he did by putting regular car oil in that gear box?

thanks!

Mike

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georgeky

06-10-2007 20:56:06




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 Re: SAE 110 in reply to Wapiti, 06-10-2007 19:41:40  
I use tube grease in a lot of old gear boxes that leak. Have never had any problems because of it. I even run it in my Bushhog gear boxes. Lots of dealers also do this to keep from putting in new seals.



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Wapiti

06-10-2007 21:05:54




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 Re: SAE 110 in reply to georgeky, 06-10-2007 20:56:06  
Tube grease, as in what you use for greasing zerks? Hmm.. I suppose thats some thick stuff!

One tube probably comes pretty close to a quart.



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georgeky

06-10-2007 22:05:34




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 Re: SAE 110 in reply to Wapiti, 06-10-2007 21:05:54  
Yes plain old lithium grease. After warming up it will thin down enough to leak some also. I have been using it in my 15 foot batwing mower for more than 15 years without a problem. I had trouble finding the correct seal so I used the closest one I could find and started using grease in it.



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Wapiti

06-10-2007 20:43:29




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 Re: SAE 110 in reply to Wapiti, 06-10-2007 19:41:40  
Actually, I have gear/hydr oil for my Ford 9n - would that work? Couldn't find a wt on the 5g bucket. I guess like you said, anything will work -

but I'll try to find some thick stuff tomorrow.



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Wapiti

06-10-2007 20:40:28




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 Re: SAE 110 in reply to Wapiti, 06-10-2007 19:41:40  
Thanks fellers.

Yeah, I think you're right - I'll bet he replaced with 30w every year because it drained out after each cutting.

I went to drain what was in there and got maybe a quarter quart out until it was dry. I'll find some thick stuff.

Thanks!



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baccerfarmer2

06-10-2007 20:27:02




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 Re: SAE 110 in reply to Wapiti, 06-10-2007 19:41:40  
that thing sounds like my antique bushhog, It leaks so bad i save the oil I drain out of everything else and pour it in.



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Bob

06-10-2007 20:00:41




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 Re: SAE 110 in reply to Wapiti, 06-10-2007 19:41:40  
Dump in the heaviest gear oil you can find, and don't "sweat it".

For this application, probably the biggest reason to use HEAVY oil is that it will leak out SLOWER.

I DOUBT light oil would have HURT anything, so long as he kept oil in there faster than it could leak out.



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paul

06-10-2007 20:00:17




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 Re: SAE 110 in reply to Wapiti, 06-10-2007 19:41:40  
NH rakes asked for 90 weight oil from the factory.

After a few years they figfured out their seals aren't worth a darn & leak all the oil out all the time. So now they suggest you use 'John Deere corn head grease'. They have a number, is it #0 grease or #000 - I forget, it's the stuff JD sells for their corn heads. It flows but just barely.

I suspect on a very old gear case there are no special odd cuts or bevels, and he did well to keep _any_ type of lubrication on the gears and all will be well.

If it were me I'd go with the JD grease..... But I could be wrong, don't yell if parts fall out. :)

--->Paul

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