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NH 469 bottom roller chain

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Our Farmer

06-05-2007 15:41:28




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Got me scratching my head on this one. Top roller bearing on the gearbox side burned up so I replaced it. Now the bottom roller chain keeps throwing off. It looks like the adjuster/idler assembly no longer lines up with the bottom roller drive sprocket, the inside one on the overrunning clutch. the sprocket on the roller and the drive sprocket line up pretty good, so I'm pretty sure it's this idler assy. Don't understand it because the bracket looks welded to the housing, idler gear bearings are good, nothing looks bent and I didn't touch anything regarding the bottom roller assy. no slop in the gearbox, and the bearings there are good. It looks to be 3/4" to an inch out of line, just enough to throw the chain.

anyone tackled this?

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Tom in Mich

06-06-2007 07:20:02




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 Re: NH 469 bottom roller chain in reply to Our Farmer, 06-05-2007 15:41:28  
Farmer,

I have a NH469 and also did some work on the roller drive train a couple years back. I put a new drive shaft and end support bearing in it. I lined all the sprockets up with a straight edge when the chains were removed. I'm not sure why your take-up sprocket doesn't line up if you didn't disturb anything unless you got it flipped the wrong way. Did you remove the take-up sprocket from the bracket and put it on the wrong side? By the way, I need to replace the same bearing. How hard was the job and how hard did the old bearing come off?

Tom

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Our Farmer

06-06-2007 11:28:51




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 Re: NH 469 bottom roller chain in reply to Tom in Mich, 06-06-2007 07:20:02  
Got the problem sorted out today. Apparently someone along the line rearranged the shims that hold the idler wheels in place on the bolts. By shifting some around I was able to line up the idlers with the drive sprocket. Put on a new chain while I was at it. I've got 10 acres to cut this weekend, so we'll see then. Should be good to go.

As far as the bearing job goes, it wasn't too bad, but a few tools will make it simpler. A slide hammer to remove the wedge pin from sprocket worked real well. Tap the sprocket toward the roller to loosen it, but a slide hammer clamped to it with a pair of vice grips made quick work of pulling it out. Had to heat the heck out of the sprocket with an acetylene torch to get it to come off the roller shaft. You'll also need a good two jaw puller. Apparently some metal got galled underneath mine and held her on there pretty good. You'll need the torch to cut off the old bearing anyway. No way to do it otherwise, because you can't get a puller on it and there's not a whole lot of room to work.
So, line up a good puller, a cutting torch and a slide hammer and it should take you about 4 hours total. Bearing, collar, shroud and flanges cost me about $75 from New Holland dealer. $50 was for the bearing itself.

I don't suppose you have any experience changing the inner gearbox seal on this thing? Mine's leaking like a seive. There are four bolts that hold the gearbox onto the plate. I'm hoping that it can be done that way, by removing shaft bolt and gears, rather than removing the whole shaft, overrunning clutch and such.

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Tom in Mich

06-07-2007 06:55:44




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 Re: NH 469 gear box seals in reply to Our Farmer, 06-06-2007 11:28:51  
Thanks for the info! I replaced the seals in the gear box when I put in a new drive shaft. If its the seal up against the plate the box mounts to, you will have to remove the gear box with drive shaft to get at it. You will also need to remove the shaft since the shoulders won't allow you to slide the new seal over it. Might as well replace both sides when you do it. It's not a bad job as long as the end support bearing allows the shaft to pull free. You may end up replacing this also as I did. The other 2 seals I beleive you could replace them from the outside. Some people will use a low viscosity grease in the box and get by. Good luck!

Tom

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Our Farmer

06-07-2007 09:40:37




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 Re: NH 469 gear box seals in reply to Tom in Mich, 06-07-2007 06:55:44  
I'm using corn head grease now, and added a little good ol' axle grease to it. Still coming out pretty good. At least it automatically lubes the chains!

I guess replacing the seal is going to have to wait until the end of the spring hay. Looked at that inner support bearing, and it looks pretty comfortable there on that shaft. I think I want to tackle this one with a little extra time if I need it. Probably end up buying a bearing anyway.

Thanks, and good luck on that roller bearing.

Chip

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