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Brad Bachelor

06-04-2007 04:15:52




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The old 532 is working pretty good except for a couple of small problems. The first one is the metering wheel just turns back and forth a quarter turn when the bale moves down the chute. I have to trip the knotter manually. The wheel turns freely when there is no hay in there. I cant figure this out for the life of me. The simplist durn thing on the baler and it has me buffaloed.

The second problem is after the knot is tied, it seems to be getting hung up somewhere I think in the twine disc. If I pull down on the string of the newly tied bale, the string will pull out and everything is fine. Is this a twine disc adjustment?

These things are nagging problems, but I've probably go the sorest feet on the board from having to walk behind the baler and trip the knotters and pull out the string :)

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Brad

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KEH

06-04-2007 19:05:37




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 Re: Alright you Ford Baler Experts...... in reply to Brad Bachelor, 06-04-2007 04:15:52  
For metering wheel only:

If it is like a New Holland, the little teeth that turn the star wheel can wear down the flat steel arm to where it does not engage the little teeth. Instead of buying a new arm, my solution was to weld up the arm and grind it smooth and flat .

KEH



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RodInNS

06-04-2007 16:05:31




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 Re: Alright you Ford Baler Experts...... in reply to Brad Bachelor, 06-04-2007 04:15:52  
Get the book. GET THE BOOK. GET THE BOOK!
Seriously. It will answer your questions, and actually gives a variety of pictures to help identify the various problems you're having. This forum is great, and I don't think anybody minds answering questions or helping in any way they can.... it's just hard to replace that book.

With our 532, it's got to break a hundred bales before it will tie properly.... just to work the rust off and generally give you enough misery to want to let it rest again. Eventually, it will start tieing.
I'd guess that if it's worse than that, the twine stripper needs to be bent towards the bill hook like george described. It should JUST contact the hook enough to wipe the knot off. Could also back the tension off on the finger a bit, but do that carefully, a bit at a time. I'd check the stripper clearance first myself.

As to the measuring wheel.... I dunno. Does it turn freely when the chamber is empty? Any play in it? I don't think it has a bearing; just rod in a bushing....
Sure it's not that the serations aren't worn off the arm, or something on that end. Mabey the wheel just looks like it's rocking.... It could be turning and the arm is not rising because the serations are worn off. THat's just a wild thought. I really don't knwo what could be wrong there. It's about the only thing that never acted up on ours at some point.... but do get the book. It's the best 30 bucks you could spend on that baler.

Rod

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Brad Bachelor

06-05-2007 03:40:12




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 Re: Alright you Ford Baler Experts...... in reply to RodInNS, 06-04-2007 16:05:31  
I got the book y'all, I'm jest too thick headed to figure out how to use it..... . :)



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RodInNS

06-05-2007 06:49:43




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 Re: Alright you Ford Baler Experts...... in reply to Brad Bachelor, 06-05-2007 03:40:12  
OK. I forget the page number... but there is a page or two in there that shows pictures of failed knots, and a likely cause. Dunno if the problem your describing is there, but it might be. Won't hurt to have a read anyway. Good luck.

Rod



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Brad Bachelor

06-04-2007 13:24:30




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 Re: Alright you Ford Baler Experts...... in reply to Brad Bachelor, 06-04-2007 04:15:52  
Thanks all for the hints and tips. This is a baler I built from three, so that could be the problem. Tho I got about right. George, I'll try the bill hook tension. Errin, I tried the string tension already Thanks.

Oh. BTW, I don't think ol John Deere will have me anytime soon for any safety sessions. I'm afraid, unless I have deep pockets (for the teenage boys), or a willing wife who wants to relive her childhood (where her brothers always yelled at her for tipping the hay wagon), I'm off doing the granny gear hay picking thing myself. I don't have an excuse like BC, I'm old enough to know better.

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Errin OH

06-04-2007 08:39:39




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 Re: Alright you Ford Baler Experts...... in reply to Brad Bachelor, 06-04-2007 04:15:52  
My only issues with �knot hanging� was the twine tensioners on the twine box. The twine needs to stay tight when the swipe arm comes out. If the twine has slack or pulls to freely out of the box, the swipe arms will not get it off the bill hook. While I couldn�t say exactly how much, you should have to give it a good pull to come out. Mine had groves worn in it and you could pull it out easily.

BTW. Saturday I had hay down, no help and rain on the way. After finishing the baling, I hooked up the trailer to the dually, lined it up on a row, dropped it in granny, and ran along side picking up bales. Catch the truck/trailer before the end of the field and stack everything I just threw on. Turn it around on the next row and do it all over again. Picked up little over 200 by myself..... . Talk about SORE!!!

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RodInNS

06-04-2007 15:52:14




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 Re: Alright you Ford Baler Experts...... in reply to Errin OH, 06-04-2007 08:39:39  
Never pulled that stunt in a truck, but frequently do so with the tractors. Just set them im 2 or 3 and let them idle along, and then jump on to steer as necessary. TS90 is really good for that.... Nice big steps and grap rails to jump on.... not that this is ever a recomended practice.

Rod



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BCnT

06-04-2007 09:57:25




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 Errinn...you just reminded me... in reply to Errin OH, 06-04-2007 08:39:39  
of my younger dumber days lmao...done that hay trick a time or 3 myself...my first truck had a daytime only battery...it would start fine once i had it running awhile but in the mornin i had to put tha ford 2000 tractor behind it and start pushin...then hop off and jump in truck and start it...then lay on tha brakes to kill tractor...great fun...and i survived ;)



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georgeky

06-04-2007 06:05:41




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 Re: Alright you Ford Baler Experts...... in reply to Brad Bachelor, 06-04-2007 04:15:52  
For the knots hanging it may be to much tension on the bill hook itself. On the right of each knotter is a bolt with a spring and nut sticking straight out. Try loosening these a 1/4 turn at a time and see if it gets better. It could also be poor contact of the stripper arm to the bill hook. It may not be stripping the knot from the hook. The stripper has to be adjused by hand, by bending it to contact the hook more. I don't have a clue about the metering wheel as I have never had that problem. You need to get a manual for it. That will make these as well as other adjustments for it a lot easier. After the knot is tied and the twine has been cut the twine disc is no longer involved. If it is not cutting the twine good it could be to little tension on the disc or dull twine knive. Get the book.

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