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336 baler

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Gene-WI

06-01-2007 14:32:12




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I'm trying to replace the rollers in the ends of the needles The dealer said to drill the head of the rivet and drive out, well that don't seem to be working, I think the rivets are swelled up pretty good, anyway I was thinking of taking the cutting torch and cutting thru the roller and the rivet, the neddles are made of cast iron and I was wondering if doing this would cause the needle to crack or break. I don't plan on getting the flame directly on the needle but I'm sure it will get heated up some.

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Lance Ropte

06-03-2007 18:56:20




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 Re: 336 baler in reply to Gene-WI, 06-01-2007 14:32:12  
We had the same problem with an old IH baler years ago and I think we ground off the rivit head and used a punch to remove the rivit. The new rollers didn't turn either because the rivit swells when you flatten the head thus binding on the inside of the roller. I don't know if you can turn the roller 180 degrees to wear opposite side but you need to repair it or your twine will always be frayed and your knots on your splices will always catch in that groove. Good luck!

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flying belgian

06-02-2007 15:17:56




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 Re: 336 baler in reply to Gene-WI, 06-01-2007 14:32:12  
usually you can't drill a rivet out because they just spin in the hole but if yours is not spinning I don't see why you can't drill it out. How about grinding the head off and pounding it out with a punch.



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MN Bob

06-02-2007 15:17:37




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 Re: 336 baler in reply to Gene-WI, 06-01-2007 14:32:12  
Gene-WI; I have a 336 twine baler. It has no rollers so was interested in your post. I checked my parts book and the on line parts. Both show that the twine has a "guide" and the wire has a "roller". I believe only the rollers (wire) had screws in the later models. All the twines I have seen had guides only and grooves were there after time. I have no problems with mine and the grooves are worn deep. Would be interested in a picture if yours truly has rollers. Might help my tensioning if I installed them. Bob

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Tx Jim

06-02-2007 03:58:20




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 Re: 336 baler in reply to Gene-WI, 06-01-2007 14:32:12  
What kind of tying system? I didn't remember twine needle having a roller and wire needle roller is held in with an allen head screw. Tx Jim



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Gene-WI

06-02-2007 06:26:49




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 Re: 336 baler in reply to Tx Jim, 06-02-2007 03:58:20  
It's a twine baler, has a roller at the tip of each needle where the twine goes thru. They haven't been turning and have a groove worn in them almost the thickness of the twine. It's a rivet holding them in but they must be swelled up pretty good cause I can't get them to move, I'm at the point now where I think I'll see if I can find a vicegrips that are narrow enough to fit in the slot and see if I can turn the roller 180 and let it wear a groove in the other side.

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Tx Jim

06-02-2007 10:10:03




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 drill rivet in reply to Gene-WI, 06-02-2007 06:26:49  
Gene,I looked at parts breakdown on JDparts.com and you are correct. Back when I worked for a JD dealer not many twine balers were sold in N Texas!! Why not drill the rivet out as most rivets are not made out of very hard metal? Tx Jim



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HaySam

06-02-2007 09:23:11




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 Re: 336 baler in reply to Gene-WI, 06-02-2007 06:26:49  
If you get that done let me no how to do it I did not have any luck ai it.



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