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Rick Jones

05-31-2007 09:08:09




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Hello All,

I have inherited a Ford 640 with a box blade and a front loader on it. Both those implements work fine but now I"d like to hook up a post hole digger. My first question is will the lever that raises and lowers the box blade be the same lever that raises and lowers the post hole digger? I have to believe it is since I only have the one control. I just push in the knob under the seat to switch from box blade to loader then back again (the loader is manual dump). My next question is since I only have the one control how will the PTO start and stop once I get the post hole digger installed?
If anybody has a owners manual and can e-mail me the section on the PTO operation I"d appreciate it. I have a shop manual but it doesn"t say anything about the PTO operation.

Thanks

Rick

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BCnT

05-31-2007 18:01:49




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 Re: Post hole digger in reply to Rick Jones, 05-31-2007 09:08:09  
you need a owners manual and i'm pretty sure theyre still available from new holland.
the 3 point is controlled by the lever on your right side when sitting on tractor...the button under front of seat should just switch hydraulic flow from loader to 3 point but i dont how your loader is set up.
pto engage lever is on left side of tractor between clutch pedal and rear axle...mash clutch pedal all the way down and push pto lever towards rear of tractor...slowly let clutch up...there was a dual clutch available on the hundred series so you may have ''live'' pto.

in all honesty...with your lack of experience...get somebody that knows farm equiptment to show you how to operate a post hole digger...they'll kill you quick if you dont know what your doing.

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Rick Jones

06-04-2007 06:35:25




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 Re: Post hole digger in reply to BCnT, 05-31-2007 18:01:49  
BCnT,

Thanks for your input. I ordered a owners manual from Yesterday"s Tractor last week as nobody in Houston, Tx had one. Luckily I have some experience with post hole diggers. We"ve punched about 40 holes on my property already but it was on my neighbor"s International tractor a couple years ago and his tractor has a better setup for running a post hole digger than my Ford. I know what you mean about how dangerous they can be so I have alot of respect for what they do.

Thanks again

Rick

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Leroy

05-31-2007 18:20:52




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 Re: Post hole digger in reply to BCnT, 05-31-2007 18:01:49  
The model no. he gave says it is a 4 speed and they did not put live PTO in a 4 speed, only in a 5 speed



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Rick Jones

06-07-2007 09:24:17




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 Re: Post hole digger in reply to Leroy, 05-31-2007 18:20:52  
Leroy,

I"d like to add some lubricant to the post hole diggers gearbox. What weight oil should I put in there? I"ve already greased it.
I"m also going to be refilling the transmission and rear axle. The manual says use SAE 80. Do you agree with that weight?

Thanks

Rick



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RayP(MI)

06-01-2007 19:12:19




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 Re: Post hole digger in reply to Leroy, 05-31-2007 18:20:52  
Shouldn't need live PTO to run post hole digger - Mine doesn't, have dug many holes. After all, tractor's not moving when digging!



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Leroy

05-31-2007 13:55:39




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 Re: Post hole digger in reply to Rick Jones, 05-31-2007 09:08:09  
Your PTO control lever is on the left side of your tractor about where your left heal would be on the side of the differential case and your tractor has live hydrolics to do the lifting but your tractor does not have a live PTO meaning that when you push in the clutch both the PTO and the ground speed if you have it in gear stop. And a lot of the post hole diggers that will fit that tractor use a 4 point connection meaning they hook to the end of the lift arms but also to a bracket that mounts under the rear axle on each side on the bolts that hold the fender on and they do not mount with the top link mount

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glennster

05-31-2007 10:56:35




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 Re: Post hole digger in reply to Rick Jones, 05-31-2007 09:08:09  
im not familiar with your tractor, but yes the 3 point control that raises and lowers the box blade will also run the post hole unit. you should have a lever somewhere that turns the pto shaft on and off. the post hole unit mounts to the lower arms of the 3 point hitch, and on mine, you dont use the 3rd link arm, the boom from the post hole digger hooks directly to the tractor where the 3rd link mounts. them post hole diggers can be real dangerous if you're not carefull, stay well clear of the auger and power take off shaft, they can kill you. always stay on the tractor when digging, dont let anybody get near you!!!!! i only run the tractor at idle when drilling holes.

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Jason, NW Ontario

06-01-2007 11:24:34




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 Re: Post hole digger in reply to glennster, 05-31-2007 10:56:35  
I agree that post hole diggers are quite a dodgy implement to cut yer teeth on. Get some coaching, get an operator's manual, watch someone with experience from a distance. Then maybe give it a try. A neighbour up these parts ruined one of his legs a few years back. He's been farming for 20 years; now his sons run the equipment.
One other small piece of advice: some 3pt hitch arms have two different mounting holes for lifting: holes further from axle give more range of motion; holes closer to the axle for more leverage on heavier/difficult implements. Use the stronger option - my Case VA just didn't have enough oomph to lift up the auger if the soil was really gummy, and then I changed the lift arms to the closer holes. No more problems, usually...

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Rick Jones

06-04-2007 06:45:33




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 Re: Post hole digger in reply to Jason, NW Ontario, 06-01-2007 11:24:34  
Thanks for your advice Jason. I'll check to see if my Ford has the ability to move the lift arms as my soil can be a bit gummy.

Thanks again.

Rick



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