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International 1300 mower - Sickle Bar Mower

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Ken Macfarlane

05-17-2007 05:05:19




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Was looking at an international 1300 mower for cleaning the edges of the fields after haying and have read the bearings go on them. Also read it is pitmanless drive.

I've only been around mower conditioners, never straight mowers. These things any good? How does the pitmanless drive work? There are no hydraulics on this unit, it looks like when it is raised via the 3 point a pull cable raises the cutterbar. Can it be converted for ditch and trailside trimming? A m-c cutter bar wears quickly if bent, this mower bows when angled, should it be running if not laying on the ground, supported?

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KEH

05-17-2007 19:35:13




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 Re: International 1300 mower - Sickle Bar Mower in reply to Ken Macfarlane, 05-17-2007 05:05:19  

The people who owned that type mower gave you good advice I'm sure, but to try to answer your question about how they work the one I had briefly had a belt from the pto shaft running to the drive mechanism naxt to the cutter bar. There it operated a small crankshaft with a connecting rod driving the blade. Worked slick and at high speed. As for the cutter bar bending, they are designed to flex. Won't hurt it.

KEH

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Chrisco

05-17-2007 16:17:53




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 Re: International 1300 mower - Sickle Bar Mower in reply to Ken Macfarlane, 05-17-2007 05:05:19  
I have a 1300 it is a real good mower if you don't have the rock guards on it. I have ran them one year because they were on the 1300. They were nothing but trouble. I put a new set of double guards with high backs. After that I had no problem cutting any thing down. This year I am building a Rowse lifting system so I don't have to get off the tractor to transport. I ran them on a double mower and they were the cat's pj...

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tom in VA

05-18-2007 04:36:00




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 Re: International 1300 mower - Sickle Bar Mower in reply to Chrisco, 05-17-2007 16:17:53  
What is the greatest angle below leval that your mower will cut? For several years I have been looking for a mower that will cut up to 45 degrees below level. I have a drainage ditches that I have to mow from the top down. The belt driven mowers that I have looked at will only go around 20 degrees downward.



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RMD

05-18-2007 08:11:35




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 Re: International 1300 mower - Sickle Bar Mower in reply to tom in VA, 05-18-2007 04:36:00  
the Allis-Chalmers "Twin-drive" mowers will do from 45 degrees below to 45 degrees above horizontal.



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Catskill Pete

05-18-2007 07:47:49




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 Re: International 1300 mower - Sickle Bar Mower in reply to tom in VA, 05-18-2007 04:36:00  
I don"t think any sickle mower,at least that I have seen will cut more than 20 degrees below level because of the frame design. Its possible that one of the disc mowers MIGHT be capable of it but I doubt it. Probably your only option would some kind of hyd arm cutter like the highway dept. uses.



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Catskill Pete

05-17-2007 15:23:22




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 Re: International 1300 mower - Sickle Bar Mower in reply to Ken Macfarlane, 05-17-2007 05:05:19  
I have the 100 model, the preceding model to the 1300 but very similar. With some slight modification they work extremely well on banks and ditches. What I did on mine is to eliminate the cable arrangement, [chain in my case], and mount a small hydraulic cylinder between the bellcrank and tractor lift arm. That way the sickle angle can be controlled independently with the tractor remotes. That allows you to operate at a wide range of angles, great for ditch and bank work.

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georgeky

05-17-2007 15:06:15




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 Re: International 1300 mower - Sickle Bar Mower in reply to Ken Macfarlane, 05-17-2007 05:05:19  
They are good mowers, will mow at any angle. The cable is connected to a Eye bolt that mount directly in the drawbar hole. When you raise the lift the bar also raises. It works very well if cable is the right length. Later models had a cam type lift bar with a roller on it that rolled against the bottom of lift arm. I prefer that type, but the cable lift is no problem to hook up and works very well.

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johns48jdb

05-17-2007 14:10:45




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 Re: International 1300 mower - Sickle Bar Mower in reply to Ken Macfarlane, 05-17-2007 05:05:19  
i wouldn't want one to do what your talking about using it for without a hydrulic lift on it. those lifts by cable are a pain to hook up and make right.



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