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repair manual ford 530 squarebaler

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steven in tn

05-04-2007 16:51:13




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does any body have a repair manual ford 530 square baler. a copy or email me some pages would be great. i am having trouble with it tieing.

THANKS




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georgeky

05-06-2007 18:32:48




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 Re: repair manual ford 530 squarebaler in reply to steven in tn, 05-04-2007 16:51:13  
Steven after reading this all again I see I told you the wiper was on the twine finger, it is not, I don't know what I was thinking. It is clear to see though. When you take the knotter loose and raise it up it will move across the bill hook and you can see it.



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georgeky

05-04-2007 17:36:31




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 Re: repair manual ford 530 squarebaler in reply to steven in tn, 05-04-2007 16:51:13  
What kind of trouble?



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steven in tn

05-04-2007 18:10:49




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 Re: repair manual ford 530 squarebaler in reply to georgeky, 05-04-2007 17:36:31  
well some times the twine hangs on the knotter but i think i got that part fixed.
the other problem is when it ties i grab the bale the twine pulls through the knot. i think the knotter is only grabbing one end good.

also what kind of twine do i need to be using?
bought a bale at tractor supply for square baler,
sorryest crap i have ever seen!paid $45 for rotton and frazzled twine!

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georgeky

05-05-2007 12:15:39




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 Re: repair manual ford 530 squarebaler in reply to steven in tn, 05-04-2007 18:10:49  
I forgot to mention you need only 9000 foot rolls of twine. All other twine is smaller in diameter and will not work in a Ford baler. The best is Gold Label from Southern States. Any good quality twine such as New Holland will also work.



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georgeky

05-04-2007 20:47:48




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 Re: repair manual ford 530 squarebaler in reply to steven in tn, 05-04-2007 18:10:49  
Is there a knot at all when it leaves the knotter? If it is not picking up the string the twine finger is not bringing string close enough to for the bill hook to pick it up, There is a clevis on the rod attached to the finger you can adjust this with. If there is a knot that is just loose and slips through you may tighten the tension on the twine inside the twine box were the string goes through those little brackets. There will be a wing nut on each side of this. It could also be to little tension on the bill hook. There is a on the right side of each knotter a bolt with a spring and nut on them. Try tightening those one turn at a time to see if it improves. Even with a manual these can be tricky. You may want to have someone familur with balers to work on it for you. They can make you pull your hair out. Any body that is familur with New Holland knotters can fix it, as they are the same knotter. I have a manual, but no way to copy it and post to you. New Holland should be able to get you a manual. There are some parts still available for these. Sorry I am not better help. If you need to discuss it further post or email me.

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Jerry D in NC

05-04-2007 19:40:05




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 Re: repair manual ford 530 squarebaler in reply to steven in tn, 05-04-2007 18:10:49  
You need to adjust the tucker fingers closer to the needle opening. It is not picking up the twine from the needle. I can help you out later this weekend when I get home...



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steven in tn

05-05-2007 12:00:19




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 Re: repair manual ford 530 squarebaler in reply to Jerry D in NC, 05-04-2007 19:40:05  
jerry d
how do i know where to put the tucker fingers at?



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Rexalot

05-06-2007 00:44:47




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 Re: repair manual ford 530 squarebaler in reply to steven in tn, 05-05-2007 12:00:19  
If a "Tucker finger" is the curved piece of metal with a point facing to the right (there's 2 of them?) Then that is called a Twine finger in New Holland speak.

Since I'm getting from other's post's that this uses "deering" knotters then I'll assume adjustment is the same.

I would trip the knotter and spin the flywheel by hand until the needles come through the knotter frames (the needles should probably be just rubbing the frames of the knotter). The twine finger points should be within 1/16", but no more than 3/16". Complete the tying cycle. When the needles are at their "home" point, the twine finger points should be parallel to the cutouts in the top of your chamber. The should be about 1/16" or so from the edge of the cutout. (Going from memory here, and I may have the dimensions confused with another adjustment - somebody just call me an idiot and correct me if wrong.)

If not, adjustment should be obvious. Loosed the jamnut, remove the pin and the turn the end until you get the position you want.

If a "tucker finger" isn't the same as a "twine finger" never mind. I'm not familiar with Ford speak.

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georgeky

05-06-2007 07:37:07




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 Re: repair manual ford 530 squarebaler in reply to Rexalot, 05-06-2007 00:44:47  
Rexalot, they do use the Deering knotters. You wouldn't believe how many folks argue that those are New Holland knotters. They can't imagine Deering knotters on a New Holland baler. Some even think New Holland invented them. I don't think the twine finger is his problem. I never heard of a tucker finger.



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steven in tn

05-06-2007 08:11:56




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 Re: repair manual ford 530 squarebaler in reply to georgeky, 05-06-2007 07:37:07  
i noticed that the ride side twine finger is in closer to the needle than the left one.
also the right one would tie some times.
i am going to try do adjust the fingers to day
and also tighten the tension on the twine inside the twine box.
also when i put more tension on the bill hook
they will hang up. how much pressure should be on the hooks?



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georgeky

05-06-2007 08:49:42




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 Re: repair manual ford 530 squarebaler in reply to steven in tn, 05-06-2007 08:11:56  
To much tension on the bill hook will cause problems, including knots hanging or even breaking the tension arm. If you have a set of fish scales you can adjust to the proper jaw opening. Place the hook on the end of the scales on the lower jaw of the bill hook and adjust untuil it requires between 10 and 20 lbs of force to open the jaw up. You can also adjust twine can tension the same way. After threading the needles pull the string up and cut it loose at the twine disk, while leaving it through the needle and tie it to the scales and see how much force it takes to pull sring through. It should be between 10 and 15 lbs. Adjust from inside the twine can until this is achieved. Now that is what the book says. It may vary a little since these ore old machines. The one I have was bought new by a neighbor in 1965. The wiper arm can also cause knots to hang on the hooks. They have to be bent to adjust those. If you have some hay you can run through it to try it out with I will email you my phone number and might be able to talk you through some of these things easier than I can type it. My email is open, so let me know I will have to sign off to talk on the phone.

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steven in tn

05-06-2007 09:07:56




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 Re: repair manual ford 530 squarebaler in reply to georgeky, 05-06-2007 08:49:42  
what is the wiper arm?



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Jerry D in NC

05-06-2007 17:27:32




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 Re: repair manual ford 530 squarebaler in reply to steven in tn, 05-06-2007 09:07:56  
Call me at 919-210-1028 and let me talk you through this.....



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georgeky

05-06-2007 10:33:19




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 Re: repair manual ford 530 squarebaler in reply to steven in tn, 05-06-2007 09:07:56  
It is made onto the twine finger. It is the part of it that contacts the bill hook to wipe the knot off the hook. If not adjusted properly it will not wipe it off. If it is making to much contact with the butt of the hook it will cause premature wear on the hook itself.



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STEVEN IN TN

05-06-2007 20:02:12




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 Re: repair manual ford 530 squarebaler in reply to georgeky, 05-06-2007 10:33:19  
SPENT A COUPLE MORE HOURS ON THIS THIS EVENING
AND COULD NOT GET THE FINGERS NO WHERE CLOSE TO 1/8 FROM THE NEEDLE.(MAYBE 3/8) I GOT TO LOOKING
AND THEY ARE TWO BOLTS THAT HOLDS THE TWINE FINGERS ON AND THAY HAVE SLOTS TO MOVE THEM TO THE FRONT OR BACK.I MOVED THEM TOO WITH IN 1/8 FROM THE NEEDLE. DID I DO THE RIGHT THING?
THAT WAS THE ONLY THING I KNOW TO DO.



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georgeky

05-06-2007 21:37:54




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 Re: repair manual ford 530 squarebaler in reply to STEVEN IN TN, 05-06-2007 20:02:12  
I sent you an email with step by step instructions on this.



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