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How to get moco and baler running?

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ChrisinMO

04-13-2007 15:09:40




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I've got a Hesston PT-10 moco and a MF 12 baler. Purchased at auction. Was kept in a shed since last used in the late 90s, but spent last winter outdoors. Now I've got them and would like to set them up to use later this spring.

I haven't tried to run either one with a pto yet. The flywheel on the baler doesn't want to turn.

Any suggestions about how to start working on them? I've never done anything quite like this before, so I really don't know how to proceed. I want to work on the baler first to make sure I can get it working, but I might as well work on both at the same time. I plan to get WD-40 on everything and let it soak in. From there, I don't know what to do.

I appreciate your recommendations, etc. about this.

Christopher

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old

04-13-2007 19:46:52




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 Re: How to get moco and baler running? in reply to ChrisinMO, 04-13-2007 15:09:40  
Well first off where in MO are you????? ?? As the other guy say DON't use wd40 is pis poor for that. But some tranny fluid and pour it all over the stuff. If you close to me I'd be happy to help you, might cost you a case of beer and gas money but. Any how drop me an e-mail and or check out my web site for info on how to call me my number is listed there

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Gerald J.

04-13-2007 19:46:16




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 Re: How to get moco and baler running? in reply to ChrisinMO, 04-13-2007 15:09:40  
I have a PT-10 and used to have a MF-12.

First things you need to look at will be the u-joints. Both mine were just gone over, took a u-joint each.

The weakest or most worn part in the PT-10 on mine was the vertical shaft for the bell crank that changed front to rear motion to left and right for the sickle. That took new bearings and a shaft. The next loose thing is the bearing on the end of the pitman rod where its on the pulley. There's supposed to be a counterweight outside that bearing to smooth the operation. Over the years, I replaced bearings on the rollers too.

The sickle is likely fairly rusty from being outside, but I've never had mine inside and I didn't have much trouble getting it going each summer. Its important to watch all the guards and sickle sections to see they slice as clearance between sickle sections or rounded guards will plug with grass. It takes a shim on the outer guard to achieve that. Which is mentioned DEEP in the manual, so deep it took me years to find it.

Hay dries quicker if you keep the windrow as wide as possible. Saves a day over making the windrow the right width for the baler. Bale in the same direction you mowed and the baler will pick it up like a piece of carpet.

On the baler, timing is everything. If the needles are out of time, they are scrap after one baling cycle. I was able to keep my baler inside all the time I had it. But it had been outside on a dealer's lot before I bought it. Those slides for the plunger will be rusty and stiff. Chains will be stiff. Lubricate chains (as well as the chain on the PT-10) with a good chain lube, oil won't stay as long.

Check the guides for the twine for grooves. Grooves will snag knots in the twine.

The knotters need lots of grease and some places the manual called for removing plugs and inserting zerks temporarilly for greasing. Knotters are a bit tempermental about the twine and some just worked better for me than others. The twine knives need to be sharp and timed right. The bill hooks can't have grooves worn in them and tie right.

Get books for both of them. You will learn many things from reading them that we have all forgotten.

I baled thousands of bales a year by my MF-12 and it missed about one tie per 100 bales. I mowed all of that with my PT-10. And after I fixed the bearings in the bell crank shaft it ran quietly. Took a few sections each year from hitting rocks and other debris. I stuck with rivets, but screws do make changing easier.

There are skid plates under the PT-10 to set the mowing height while the springs balance a lot of the weight so the skids don't cut ruts.

Gerald J.

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Lincoln

04-13-2007 16:53:49




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 Re: How to get moco and baler running? in reply to ChrisinMO, 04-13-2007 15:09:40  
I've never worked on a Massey baler or Heston MOCO, only New Holland stuff so I am only guessing here. I would check to see if the stop that keeps the plunger front hitting the needles is fully retracted. This will keep the flywheel from turning. If it isn't make sure the needles are all the way back. Like Michael said start it out slow with the pto, you'll likely shear off some pins before its up and going good. You'll need an owners manual anyway so you might as well get one now. On the MOCO I like to pour used motor oil on the sickle bar when I'm done with it for the year. Inspect all the sickle sections and guard to be they are sharp. Keep posting back on this site as questions arise, there are a lot of helpfull people here.

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Michael Soldan

04-13-2007 16:33:25




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 Re: How to get moco and baler running? in reply to ChrisinMO, 04-13-2007 15:09:40  
First, DON'T USE WD40! It is the poorest lubricant on the market, wasn't designed as a lubricant. Then get all of the old hay out of the baler chamber, chaffe mud, whatever is left in the baler. Use a light oil for moving parts like "3in1" or even some 10 w30 in an oil can. Once the chamber is cleaned out you should be able to turn the baler over with the flywheel. Oil chains and grease all the zerks you can find. If you have to put a bar on the flywheel do it and get the thing to turn until it turns freely. Once you are at this point you should be able to put the PTO on it and just idle it over slowly. You will likely need a manual for an MF 12 in case you have to time it. If it was running when parked it is likely still in time.The Moco will not be much different, oil chains and the bar or blades, grease all zerks hook up and set it in field position. Raise and lower it a few times and again turn it over by hand with a bar until it is turning freely. When hooked up to the PTO just idle it over slowly and if everything seems to be working it is likely ready to go. The key is to turn them over slowly, watch and listen, listen to the tractor at idle , there should be no great strain ,nor should the engine lug down. Be carefull around PTO's and have all shields and guards in place. Shut the PTO off before you get off of the tractor..Safety first..Good luck...Mike in Exeter Ontario PS I have a manual dealer close by if you need a manual, you may have a source closer to you.

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