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New Idea 403 Rake Maintenance Questions

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Mark (PA)

03-24-2007 11:56:20




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Hello everyone, Today I picked up a New Idea 403 Rake at auction VERY cheap. The rake appears to have either been rolled over OR possible a large beam fell on one side of it and broke the frame ( the part that goes from the hitch and arches back to the rear axle. The previous owner apparently liked it so much they fixed it all up and from a pretty good inspection they seem to have done a very admirable job. They welded a good bit of angle and readjusted the postion of the pulleys and also adjusted how the hitch set. I thought for the price.. Why not take it home and see what she will do. IT already has many newer teeth (maybe 30 or more, used just 4 or 5 years at most by the amoutn of wear)

SO all that aside I brought it home and engaged the drive mechanism and she worked well. There are about 4 or 5 teeth that seem to catch on the basket in spots that seem to prevent it from a free flowing motion. So they will need replaced as they are bent up pretty good. and one of the basket rollers are bent.

So now having said all that. THe bearings in the left side when facing (not the drive belt side) appear to be shot. The wheel that connects to the bars that actually do the raking is sloppy to the tune of 1/2" or more of play. The drive belt side seems quite solid and tight.

My questions!

1. were these OK rakes? I do about 30 acres of hay a year so nothing to great.

2. Parts supplier? where can I get parts for these?

3. Mainly looking to get a spare belt although the one that is on it looks great.

4. Also the bearings... can I acquire those somewhere or are they NLA?

5. Lastly! do they make any type of treatment for that large belt to keep it in good shape?

I have to say I"m pretty excited to try it out especially for the cheap cost and provide I don"t have to put a ton of Cash into it.

Thanks everyone!

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Edd in KY

03-25-2007 06:07:24




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 Re: New Idea 403 Rake Maintenance Questions in reply to Mark (PA), 03-24-2007 11:56:20  
I have 2 of those rakes. You can get parts from any New Idea dealer. I replaced the same bearing (and shims) and the belt on mine. Belt was $100. But belts last a long time and seem to cause less problem than gear boxes. Try bending the teeth or basket to stop the interferance. You can buy teeth at Tractor supply that fit with a little bending. Likely the basket got bent when it was hit. If the frame was welded and braced properly you should not have a problem. I suggest you check out the bolt that carries the front of the rake. If it breaks, ( mine did) it will bend hell out of the baskets. All in all the rakes work fine. I rake over 100 acres of heavy grass hay every year with mine.

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Harold Hubbard

03-24-2007 18:23:54




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 Re: New Idea 403 Rake Maintenance Questions in reply to Mark (PA), 03-24-2007 11:56:20  
I have a 403 and a 401, which is a shaft drive. I have had little problem finding parts. The 403 was also sold as a Ford model 513, which gives you an alternate source of parts. The worst trouble I have had is that the dog clutch to engage the belt gets worn and the rake will not stay in gear. I solved that by getting it engaged and then putting a muffler clamp around the axle next to the sliding collar so that it can't move. The belt should last a long time of it doesn't already have a bunch of fabric sticking out of it. Be sure to hold on to your hat, and maybe sit down, before you ask what a new belt costs. They were over $100 several years ago.

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RayP(MI)

03-26-2007 05:30:34




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 Re: New Idea 403 Rake Maintenance Questions in reply to Harold Hubbard, 03-24-2007 18:23:54  
Got a belt from my NAPA dealer for my NI rake a while back, was substantially less than that. However, my rake is a 3pt hitch, pto powered, so probably a far different animal! Great rake, by the way! No gear boxes, etc. Once in a while, I do bend basket when I bottom out on a ridge in the field. Usually can bend it back with a foot, or if necessary, a 2x4 and a hammer.



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