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Replacing old, wooden bearings/bushings

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skubbs

03-14-2007 23:03:48




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Hi,
Need some ideas about what to use to replace broken wooden bearings (bushings?) on an old Oliver disc cultivator. I simply want the disc to work without tearing up.
Thanks,
Steve




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tim[in]

03-16-2007 14:35:17




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 Re: Replacing old, wooden bearings/bushings in reply to skubbs, 03-14-2007 23:03:48  
i remember a post from a few years ago where guys ,i think one had been an old implement dealer talked about soaking them in 80-90 weight oil and he said not to grease them because the grease held the grit that would get into the bearing in there and then would grind the bearing up faster.it would be interesting to try it both ways to find out. of course it depends on how wore the bearing holders are as to letting the dirt in. when i rebuild my disk maybe do one half each way to find out.

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Pooh Bear

03-15-2007 10:48:55




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 Re: Replacing old, wooden bearings/bushings in reply to skubbs, 03-14-2007 23:03:48  
Wooden bearings are best made from Apple wood or dogwood. Both of these woods burnish very well and get harder the more they are run.

Wooden bushings should be made of hard maple.

Pooh Bear



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Gerald J.

03-15-2007 08:12:22




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 Re: Replacing old, wooden bearings/bushings in reply to skubbs, 03-14-2007 23:03:48  
Find a furniture making shop. They will know how to get hard maple and will have a lathe so they can make the bore round, square to the sides and any diameter. They will cut two blocks and glue them together with a piece of paper in the glue before boring the hole. That makes them split apart easily. A machine shop can do the boring too and more precisely.

You might check with Shoup, www.shoupparts.com to see if they have the bearings or the maker of the disk.

Gerald J.

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hayfarmer

03-15-2007 07:19:17




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 Re: Replacing old, wooden bearings/bushings in reply to skubbs, 03-14-2007 23:03:48  
I made some last year for a packer, a friend found a maple butcher block at Good will store. I cut pieces to match the old ones and drilled hole with drill press and hole cutter. In my area it is difficult to find hard woods but this worked. Butcher block was cheap



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jhill52

03-15-2007 06:06:12




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 Re: Replacing old, wooden bearings/bushings in reply to skubbs, 03-14-2007 23:03:48  
A lot of those old bearings were made from Hard Maple. Easy to make.



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stanley stenerson

03-15-2007 04:19:23




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 Re: Replacing old, wooden bearings/bushings in reply to skubbs, 03-14-2007 23:03:48  
Attended a short course at a wood-turning school where instructor had made a set for some disc owner. School located large size drills, etc. necessary to produce disc bearings.



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Maine Fordson

03-15-2007 11:35:11




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 Re: Replacing Wooden Bearings in reply to stanley stenerson, 03-15-2007 04:19:23  
If you have: Access to a wood lathe; A small supply of one of the hardwoods mentioned above (I'd go with apple wood if you can get it, or sugar-maple/rock-maple/hard-maple or whatever it is called in your area if you can't); A set of inside calipers and a set of outside calipers; and a couple of hours, you can make your own. If the old wooden bearing is not too rotted but only broken, you can use it for a pattern. (If not, use the inside calipers to get a rough idea of the size these bearings need to be.)

Rough out the basic shape on the lathe, and as you get closer to the necessary diameter, check frequently with the calipers. I'd leave it a little big to begin with -- you can fit it to closer tolerances later.

Once you have the bearings turned to just about the right size (as close as you can get, that is), I'd boil them in oil for a while. (On top of a woodstove -- if you have one -- is a great way to do this.) I remember seeing an old ad for the Studebaker Bros. Wagon Company (yes, they later manufactured automobiles) wherein they boasted that their wagon axles were made of solid hickory and boiled in oil for six hours. I guess *that* must have saturated those axles!

Anyway, once the bearings are boiled & you're convinced that they're ready to install, double check the diameters of the bearings and axles, both outside and inside. You may need to do a little bit of work with a fine file or some sandpaper if the oil caused the wood to swell up much. It's OK if they are just a little bit tight; in fact, you want them that way. If they're good and tight, every time you grease them you'll push out any grit that may have worked its way into them.

Before you install the bearings, make sure that all surfaces are clean, shiny, and grit-free. If not, do the necessary prep work with wire brush, file, sandpaper and/or crocus cloth, and be sure to clean up any filings or sandpaper grit (I usually use gasoline and a rag or a spray can of brake cleaner.) A little bit of axle grease will usually hold the bearings in place while you get things put back together.

Once everything has been reassembled, turn the discs to make sure they spin just barely freely and don't bind. Then torque all bolts to necessary specs.

Wash out the grease cups (or zerk fittings), again with gasoline or brake cleaner, and put grease in them before re-installing.

Lastly, walk the grease to them and keep an eye on them to make sure they have enough grease, especially the first few times you use the implement.

With frequent greasing and by storing the implement in out of the rain, those new bearings should last decades.

Good luck with your project, and let us know how you make out!

-- Maine Fordson

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supergrumpy

03-16-2007 07:27:46




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 Re: Replacing Wooden Bearings in reply to Maine Fordson, 03-15-2007 11:35:11  
excellent post, planned to do this but only thought of some of the details involved

guess fresh motor oil would work



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