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John Deere #5 Mower

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Downeaster

02-12-2007 08:12:10




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Just picked up a JD #5 sickle mower to work with my Ford 2N. What's your experience with this mower and what things should I keep an eye on when I'am using it. Also some suggestions on keeping it working well and its maintenance. Thanks




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Deere Heaven

02-16-2007 12:13:16




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 Re: John Deere #5 Mower in reply to Downeaster, 02-12-2007 08:12:10  
The are great cutting machines I have three of them. They are trickey to use at first, but after that there great. I use mine to mow along the diches. I strongly recomend a manual this shows setup tips and a parts list in the back. Thes will cut small brush as well, and large catus. The sickle guards and wood pitman arms can be purchased at your local Tractor Supply co. I restored one one I am painting, and fixing to use and the other will be a parts donor. I have pictures. Email me and I will send you pictures, and awnser any questions you might have. Thanks, Brian [email protected]

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MyrlfromPA

02-13-2007 04:43:23




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 Re: John Deere #5 Mower in reply to Downeaster, 02-12-2007 08:12:10  
I have a Massy Ferguson 3point cycle mower I would trade you if your #5 is in as good of condition as mine and you are close enuff to Bedford PA to make the swap. Just a thought,Myrl



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Dave H (MI)

02-12-2007 16:35:29




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 Re: John Deere #5 Mower in reply to Downeaster, 02-12-2007 08:12:10  
You won't like this advice, but I have at least three JD #5 mowers around here and use them a lot.
I also have a 2N out back that I am working on. I would not even consider putting these two together. A good 3 pt mower is what you need. There are a lot of them around and they aren't all that expensive. #5 mower is a great machine on the right tractor. The JD B or a good Farmall H or M would be the right tractor. Don't care for the idea of trying to adapt it to the 2N.

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Bob

02-12-2007 17:47:45




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 Re: John Deere #5 Mower in reply to Dave H (MI), 02-12-2007 16:35:29  
DaveH,

I have to agree with you. The #5 is NOT a bad mower, except for looking like it was built by a blacksmith having a BAD day, and a 2N is not a bad little tractor.

They juat make a lousy combination.



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James Howell

02-12-2007 15:36:20




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 Re: John Deere #5 Mower in reply to Downeaster, 02-12-2007 08:12:10  
I have one �working� #5 sickle mower and another older one being �spruced up� to be a working mower. When I bought my 52A it had a #5 mower attached. Took the mower off and used the 52A for other purposes. When I bought my 43B it had �quik tach� mower brackets, so I mounted the #5 mower on the 43B. When the second mower is �spruced up� it will go on my 40B.

The �working� #5 sickle mower is great for mowing around trees with low hanging branches, close to fences, down in ditches, along terraces, and briars along tree lines. It is also good for hay fields if you are not in a hurry. Once you get the �hang� of using it, other types of mowers are not as challenging or fun. The first suggestion is to buy an operator�s manual. There are at least two versions/editions, but OM-H10-351 is a good start.

Read the topics on the cutter bar, aligning the cutter bar, tilt and adjustment, adjustable subsoles, knives, pitman, and registering the knife.

Most of the hardware ( guards, wearing plates, knife holders, ledger plates, pitman, sections, and knife ) can be found at Tractor Supply Co.

The lubrication chart is probably the most important page. It recommends greasing the box bushing on the pitman every 2 hours of operation. Grease this bushing if nothing else on the mower.

Be sure to lubricate the knife and knife head. This �grease� is also available at TSC.

Remove the filler plugs on the bottom of the housing and drain the water, oil, and whatever else might fall out. Refill with the recommended 140 weight oil that is also available at TSC.

Adjust the tension on the latch spring so the cutter bar will break away if it hits an immobile object ( tree stump ). Do not get it so tight that you cannot �snap� the bar back in place.

Keep the pivot bolt tight that holds the drawbar to the main frame. If it gets loose, the cutter bar breaks away too easy. It also makes it harder to �snap� the cutter bar back in place.

Do not back the tractor in reverse to �snap� the cutter bar in place. As I found out the hard way, you can break the yoke.

Put a 2x4 pine wedge secured by a small bungy between the knife and knife guard before raising the cutter bar. As I found out the hard way, the knife will �bottom out� on the bar and the bar will not lower.

Avoiding some of the Three Stooges methods of operation mentioned above, you should get good service from your #5 mower.

Hope this helps and good luck with your mower.

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Leroy

02-12-2007 15:14:15




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 Re: John Deere #5 Mower in reply to Downeaster, 02-12-2007 08:12:10  
First off what hitch do you have on the mower. The quick hitch that clamps on about a 1 1/2" to 2" bar or the flat plate that you can bolt to the 11 hole cross drawbar? If it is the flat plate it will be easy to mount but first you need the stabilizer bars from the fender mount bolts and the sway bars that go from the end of the 11 hole drawpar to where the top link fastens then you will have to make a bracket that will fasten to the lift arm to keep that drawbar from rotating.. If you have the quick tatch hitch on the mower you may be able to instead of the 11 hole drawbar have a bar of the size that will clamp in the quick tatch brackets on the mower and have lift pins fastened to the end of the bar. Now the 2N is supposed to have a 1 1/8" PTO shaft in and the mower PTO shaft will me 1 3/8" so you will need some type of adapter, then the PTO shaft that came with the mower will be too short to reach without extending it as the mower will be mounted quite a bit farther back on the Ford than most other tractors and that will make the tractor hard to stear by wanting to wip the front end around, (TAIL WAG THE DOG). You can get by but it proably would be cheaper to forget it and by a 3 point hitch for the ford. I do have a 44 2N and a 41 9N Ford and I do have two No. 5 mowers, one with each type hitch but I don't think I would want to try to mount one to the Ford. Years ago I had a Ferguson TO30, (same body size as the ford) and tried hooking a semi mounted mower (That one had 2 caster wheels on to keep it from wanting to roll over sideways, not like the JD that has only one) and it did not work correct, put it back to the John Deere B I had it on before.

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fixerupper

02-12-2007 18:49:53




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 Re: John Deere #5 Mower in reply to Leroy, 02-12-2007 15:14:15  
The 'tail wagging the dog' issue is a safety warning. I put a #5 on a B Farmall once and while I was mowing the grass on the side of a gravel road I got in to some tough pulling and the pull on the cutterbar slid the front end of the tractor sideways. When I got stopped the right rear wheel was just over the hump into the ditch with the cutter bar hanging in the air over the ditch trying to pull the light little tractor over. It was one of those memorable moments! Jim

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RustyFarmall

02-12-2007 14:28:27




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 Re: John Deere #5 Mower in reply to Downeaster, 02-12-2007 08:12:10  
I would suggest purchasing an owners/operators manual, it could very well be the best investment you will ever make. There is a lot more to maintaing efficient operation than what meets the eye. The manual could make the difference between an enjoyable experience or a real nightmare.



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glennster

02-12-2007 08:17:19




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 Re: John Deere #5 Mower in reply to Downeaster, 02-12-2007 08:12:10  
i have a #5 also. its a real good mower. i have put new sections on mine and replaced most of the rock guards, they were well worn. you may want to pick up an extra pitman arm, i got one from farm and fleet, pretty inexpensive. i bought the universal and cut and drilled to fit.



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