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Scottnj

02-05-2007 12:51:20




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I'm looking for info concerning the hows and whys of check planting. I remember seeing it once when I was a kid, but haven't seen it since. Anyone have any good references for this? Any thoughts about it? I'm thinking about planting a couple acres of corn for fun (and my steers), and thought this might be a nice way to get a really good job done cultivating.




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Scottnj

02-06-2007 03:09:18




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 Re: check planting in reply to Scottnj, 02-05-2007 12:51:20  
Thanks to all for the replies. Already, you've taught me some things I didn't realize. This is just a hobby thing, so yield doesn't matter. Before I start this project, I already know I'd be money ahead to continue to buy my corn for the steers.

I don't plan to spray, so weeds do matter. Will accept the ideas about closer spacing and planting a smaller crop. Might even scrap the whole idea - might not. The balance of the field (25 acres) I'm converting from row crops to pasture. The last time this field was tilled by family, was by my Great Grandfather in the 60's - with horses. It's been rented out and run down since. I'm working on trying to bring the soil back with lime, manure and turning it into pasture that will be mostly just hogged off for a couple years. This 1-2 acre corn patch is just play. Having grown cucumbers as a kid, I can still remember just how big 2 acres is when hoeing - way too big for an army of 1. Staying ahead of them picking was impossible. Made a little money, but learned more!

I've ordered the 4 hour dvd from the carb place. Won't the misses just be thrilled to see how they did it back then!

Again, I appreciate the input - especially from those who have been there and done it. Pop's been gone for a few years now, and I miss those talks about "the how's and why's of how it was done" when he was a kid on the farm.

Scott

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jwal10

02-05-2007 19:22:29




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 Re: check planting in reply to Scottnj, 02-05-2007 12:51:20  
I have done this before, a lot of work for the effort. Old planters were 40"or42" rows. A lot of room for weeds to get plenty of sun light, without shade for weeds. Then after 1st pass it is rough. Figure on 3-4-5 cultivations depending on moisture & weeds. I would plant on 30" or 36"rows to get more shade, if you can set cultivator and cultivate deep. It is hard to get cultivator set up to cultivate close enough to keep down weeds. It is hard to pick as it wants to knock down a lot of stalks because of the gaps. Also rough ride. Most of the check row corn was ear corn picked by hand so it could be hilled good to keep weeds from taking over. If you do take the time because you want to see how it was done,make sure you don"t plant more than you can take care of or you will have a bad weed patch. Try some check row and do the rest regular.<<<<< GOOD LUCK>>>>>

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paul

02-05-2007 17:47:28




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 Re: check planting in reply to Scottnj, 02-05-2007 12:51:20  
Be sure you can devote enough time, and the correct timing, to cultivating, or you will get a weedy mess. Keeping the corn ahead of the weeds without spray was a tough thing to do when they knew how. Doing it without knowing what you are doing is going to end up a mess.

Harrow the corn as it is breaking out of the ground. This kills weed srpouts, won't harm the corn.

Cutivate every week, if you see weeds you are kinda too late, they will survive the cultivator enough when bigger to over-run the corn.

As a hobby with a regular job, that is not an easy thing to do around the rain & other commitments.

Getting a good plant population is very difficult with check corn - we want close to double the plants per acre these days.

Turns out the corn doesn't grow as well clumped together as when spaced singly.

And, it can be a real challenge to get the checked corn through a combine or picker with today's tough stalks. Easier to feed spaced stalks through.

I'm not trying to stop you; just mentioning the reality of it so you know what you are getting into. :)

--->Paul

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B-maniac

02-05-2007 16:06:02




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 Re: check planting in reply to Scottnj, 02-05-2007 12:51:20  
Order the video/DVD from Roberts Carburetor called "From Seed to Elevator". It shows a complete demo of check planting (2 row) and cross cultivation along with everything the title says , all with 2 cyl JD,s and 1 and 2 row equipment. Quite an eye opener for young people and a nostalgia trip for us who farmed back then.



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dboll

02-05-2007 15:03:08




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 D in reply to Scottnj, 02-05-2007 12:51:20  
The one problem is population, 4 to a hill on 40" is about 15,000. I plant 26,000 to 30,000, new corns don't flex ears like old hybrids. I cheched 15 acres one year for our show, it didn't get sprayed on time,it got dry and it yielded 70-80 bu/acre whereas the other corn did 130 to 150. I had fun doing it as I was born long after Dad started drilling corn. I got a 490JD and followed the owners manual, not a perfect job but good enough to be glad i didn't have to do all my acres that way and to say I have done it! Do it if top yields aren't a priority.

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CENTAUR

02-05-2007 14:00:04




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 Re: check planting in reply to Scottnj, 02-05-2007 12:51:20  
Its pretty to look at but that second cultivation may be a bumpy ride.I assume you might be from N.J.where they prepared a flat seedbed and planted with a rows the standard 42 inch in times past.If you have impliments to do this,then run a spike tooth harrow or rotary harrow with the spikes set at about 45 degrees as this will kill all the weeds that have sprouted along with the corn which is rooted about two inches below the surface weeds.This will not tear out the corn.

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shawmic

02-05-2007 13:10:47




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 Re: check planting in reply to Scottnj, 02-05-2007 12:51:20  
It sounds like a good idea if you want to cultivate both directions and cut down on the use of chemicals.



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