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RC farms

02-02-2007 10:52:36




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I have a IH 4 row tool bar planter (round cans) and at one time had fertilizer bins. It's on tires with hyraulics. How can I find the model?...the gear box has numbers...but I don't know if that means anything. I'd like to figure out how to get more spacing on my corn planting (not row spacing but spacing between seeds)I bought the correct seed plates (flats for sweetcorn) from from Lincon AG and they work fine but I'm still getting too many seeds down....and that must be in the planter itself. I bought the plates that are suppose to provide more spacing but that didn't help much (last year)... any thoughts on this? Thanks.

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paul

02-02-2007 21:14:49




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 Re: IH tool bar planter in reply to RC farms, 02-02-2007 10:52:36  
Does each planter box get driven by a chain from the press wheel? You will need to change the sprockets to different sizes for different plant spacings. Will be a chart & directions in the manual - which I assume you don't have because you don't know the model of it. :)

Some planters have a shaft driving all the row units - that shaft will have a set of sprockets & chain & be driven off of a bigger planter wheel axle, you need to change that combination of those sprockets to get a different seeding rate.

--->Paul

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Allan In NE

02-02-2007 15:58:56




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 Re: IH tool bar planter in reply to RC farms, 02-02-2007 10:52:36  
LIke Hugh says,

Change the drive sprokets to change the throw.

Allan



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LA in Wi.

02-02-2007 15:58:10




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 Re: IH tool bar planter in reply to RC farms, 02-02-2007 10:52:36  
RC Farms,

There are several plates that plant "flats", because of the many different sizes of flats.
Can you tell us what the plate number is? If it's a plastic plate, what color is it? Also, do you have your planter set up for 16 cell or 24 cell plates (owners manual would tell you the sprocket settings for each.)? If you have planter set up for 16, for example, and you put in a 24 cell plate you will have a train wreck.....and same for other way around.
Sweet corn can be hard to plant because so much of it is usually "wrinkled like a grape".

Have you looked at the corn hopper floor plate? Does it have grooves around outer edge because of wear thru the years? Check this out thoroughly and get back to me. I'd love to help you with this if I can, but need more info.

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Hugh MacKay

02-02-2007 14:26:02




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 Re: IH tool bar planter in reply to RC farms, 02-02-2007 10:52:36  
RC: How old would you judge this planter to be? I can get back to 1960 quite handily. There were 184 planting units, each unit driven by it's own press wheel. By the late 60s there were the 185 unit planters, much the same as 184 but improved.

As I recall one could also change the drive sprockets to slow that unit down.



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Leroy

02-04-2007 18:39:53




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 Re: IH tool bar planter in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-02-2007 14:26:02  
The way he describes it I would guess late 50's to early 60's and would not be a tool bar but just a standard 4 ror tractor planter on rubber for a hudrolic cylinder and the units would not be presswheel driven but driven with the rubber tired lift wheels. I do not know IHC model No. But would guess it to be IHC compair to 490 John Deere



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Hugh MacKay

02-05-2007 02:02:17




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 Re: IH tool bar planter in reply to Leroy, 02-04-2007 18:39:53  
Leroy: I know what your saying, IH No. 56 is the one your thinking of. He said tool bar in the beginning thus I thought of 184 or 185 which mount up much the same as Deere 71 units. Since I first responded, Paul questioned him as to whether press wheels or planter lift wheel drive the units. He now has had 3 days to clarify that and has not been polite enough to do so. If he doesn't know the difference, he probably can't be helped any how. I just walk away from threads like this one.

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RC farms

02-05-2007 07:06:20




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 Re: IH tool bar planter in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-05-2007 02:02:17  
Very sorry I didn't get back to you guys over the last few days..but I managed to mess up my computer trying to download a softwware update for taxes. I'm very interested and need the help to figure this planter out and I will look tonight to see if it's driven by th epress wheeels or lift wheels. Plates are ivory and I believe 16 cells.



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Hugh MacKay

02-05-2007 07:32:06




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 Re: IH tool bar planter in reply to RC farms, 02-05-2007 07:06:20  
RC: My apologies, we can't fault you too heavily for computer download fowling things up, especially that tax one you know it's going try and do you anyhow.

Most of those planter plates I've seen are 16, 20 and 24 cell, thus with 16 you've gone as far as you can that route trying to space seeds out. Regardless of which way your seed units are driven there should be a chain sprocket reduction. Do you have any photos, there is someone on here that will recognize what you have. Once you do that then get a proper manual, and it will tell you what was available way back when. I'm not familiar with all plate type planters, however all the ones I've been around had the ability to space seed 12" or more apart.

If you don't have photos, go to the implement photo gallery here at YT, just type in planters, you might just find something identical to your own. I guarentte the resources on here will nail it for you. These guys never fail, sometimes it takes a bit of chewing, but we will prevail..

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RC farms

02-05-2007 09:49:48




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 Re: IH tool bar planter in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-05-2007 07:32:06  
Thanks, I re-posted my message on this back up front, I do aprreciate your help and I plan to take some pictures of the planter tonight and try to post them either tonight or tomarrow. There's a lot of valuable knowledge here in this particular forum. One thing my Dad taught me was don't be afraid to ask if you don't know...he probably regretted that more than any fella would know.



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