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Round Bale moving with a Farmall M

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Todd Poor

01-30-2007 05:23:45




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Does any one have a good way to do this with this tractor without putting 3 Point hitch on?




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Ken Thies

02-01-2007 16:41:12




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 Re: Round Bale moving with a Farmall M in reply to Todd Poor, 01-30-2007 05:23:45  
Looks like a modified stacker.
Any body remember them???
Ken



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wh

01-31-2007 06:48:54




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 picture of trailing mover in reply to Todd Poor, 01-30-2007 05:23:45  
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here is picture of one we made several years ago. owner used a pick up to move the bales. you could use a hyd. cylinder in place of the winch and it would work fine.



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joe-etx

01-31-2007 18:02:44




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 Re: picture of trailing mover in reply to wh, 01-31-2007 06:48:54  
have 47 H use three point ,with bale mover as shown above. in up forks to stab bale, in down will lift bale to move. i moved 80 in one day some time in 1970s to my storage area like that.



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Sand Flat Bob

01-30-2007 10:58:15




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 Re: Round Bale moving with a Farmall M in reply to Todd Poor, 01-30-2007 05:23:45  
If you are just moving bales to a feeder and not stacking them, just use a bale buggy like was said. I have a neighbor that does that with a Dodge 2500 pickup and doesn't even own a tractor. Has the advantage you can load a bale on the buggy and go down the road at 60 mph. He hires all the baling down by others. You could pull it behind the M if you weren't going very far.

Bob



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wh

01-30-2007 09:48:26




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 Re: Round Bale moving with a Farmall M in reply to Todd Poor, 01-30-2007 05:23:45  
use a bale "buggy". 1 axle - frame that pivots on axle - put a bale spear on upright - and use a winch or tractor hyrd. to tilt. slow but works fine.



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PatMz

01-30-2007 09:06:17




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 Re: Round Bale moving with a Farmall M in reply to Todd Poor, 01-30-2007 05:23:45  
If you just need to move them from the stack to the feeder you can use a cable, sling or chain to drag them. Be darn sure you hook the cable to the swinging drawbar and not the "U" bar.

Otherwise these fellows are right, you'll need a loader. And absolutely do not use a bucket without a grapple or spear! If you're using a loader keep that sucker as close to the ground as you can and still move.

I use a Farmall M narrow front and a F11 loader with a double bale spear. Except for the few feet to get back from the truck of the stack I keep that bale within inches of the ground. I also have 600 lbs of wheel weights, and keep the backblade on it for even more counter-balance.

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Allan In NE

01-30-2007 08:56:39




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 Re: Round Bale moving with a Farmall M in reply to Todd Poor, 01-30-2007 05:23:45  
Oh heck yeah,

I do it every day with my H. The truckers can't figure out how that little guy has so darned much snort.

Wide front end, power steering and lots and lots of weight in the rear quarters. :>)

Be careful!

Allan

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msb

01-30-2007 08:56:36




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 Re: Round Bale moving with a Farmall M in reply to Todd Poor, 01-30-2007 05:23:45  
A word of warning!I had to repair a 2030 a farmer was killed on when a large bale he had in the loader bucket rolled down on top of him.Never lift a bale in a bucket that is not equipped with a grapple fork or a spear or some other protection to keep a bale from rolling down the loader arms.



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fixerupper

01-30-2007 07:03:58




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 Re: Round Bale moving with a Farmall M in reply to Todd Poor, 01-30-2007 05:23:45  
If you put a loader on it, equip it like Chad's, meaning plenty of rear weights and wide front end. A 1500 pound round bale on a loader raised high can lay a light weight tractor over. Had a friend get killed when his M with a narrow front and loader went over on him on level ground and he was a careful operator. I just got to thinking about this, and maybe you could rig up a bale fork on one of those wheel carriers that used to be on the front of a John Deere rotary hoe. It should be real easy to put a 3 point bale fork on it. Where do you live? I'm in NW Iowa. I have one of those wheel carriers (dollies?) sitting in the barn. I junked the hoe and just couldn't make myself cut up the dollie.Jim

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El Toro

01-30-2007 07:57:27




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 Re: Round Bale moving with a Farmall M in reply to fixerupper, 01-30-2007 07:03:58  
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That's good advice to anyone handling those large
bales. I wonder how these Amish handle them? Hal



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souNdguy

02-01-2007 07:09:35




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 Re: Round Bale moving with a Farmall M in reply to El Toro, 01-30-2007 07:57:27  
First.. i got nothing against the amish.. and.. i got nothing against any way that someone wants to do something.

But.. It seems like they are splititng hairs to use a stationary engine, on a cart.. to power a bailer.. pulled by a mule team. At some point.. when is the darn tractor gonna be ok?? So far.. all they are missing is the 'drive' . The might as wel ahve a tractor with pto, and just leave it in neutral and tow it by animal.....

Soundguy

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El Toro

02-01-2007 07:27:11




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 Re: Round Bale moving with a Farmall M in reply to souNdguy, 02-01-2007 07:09:35  
Everyone has the right to worship as they please,
but it seems some get the wrong message. The Amish have had to make big changes over the years.
In order to ship milk in MD and PA you need to have coolers and at least milkers. They now have generators. They still don't have any electric in their homes. I would think they need lights in their barns. They are excellent craftsman too. Someone said they're using Volkswagon diesel engines in their power unit. Hal

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Allan In NE

01-30-2007 09:19:10




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 Re: Round Bale moving with a Farmall M in reply to El Toro, 01-30-2007 07:57:27  
They make those little tow-carts on wheels that just slip under the bale and "tip" it up to lift off the ground via a hand crank.

Allan



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Todd Poor

01-30-2007 12:23:57




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 Re: Round Bale moving with a Farmall M in reply to Allan In NE, 01-30-2007 09:19:10  
where do I purchase one



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IaGary

01-30-2007 17:23:45




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 Re: Round Bale moving with a Farmall M in reply to Todd Poor, 01-30-2007 12:23:57  
Check out this site.

Link

Gary



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Chad Franke

01-30-2007 05:58:56




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 Re: Round Bale moving with a Farmall M in reply to Todd Poor, 01-30-2007 05:23:45  
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Put a cheap F10 loader on it (if they are to be found in your area). This one moved probably 10-20 semi loads a year for many years.



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souNdguy

02-01-2007 07:12:39




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 Re: Round Bale moving with a Farmall M in reply to Chad Franke, 01-30-2007 05:58:56  
And here i thought that the 1-arm loader on my ford was a contraption.. boy.. that loader looks.. um.. like it will limit maneueverability a tad... (GRIN)

Soundguy



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Chad Franke

02-01-2007 13:55:48




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 Re: Round Bale moving with a Farmall M in reply to souNdguy, 02-01-2007 07:12:39  
Actually doesn't limit anything, just looks big. Acts like a big loader too. 2000 pound bales 2 levels high on a semi, no problem. Don't remember exactly but lifts something like 23 feet up, way more loader than you would think by looking at it.



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souNdguy

02-01-2007 21:56:41




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 Re: Round Bale moving with a Farmall M in reply to Chad Franke, 02-01-2007 13:55:48  
Hmm.. I don't buy your argument : 'actually doesn't limit anything'.

Seems like it makes you wider and with larger rear corners.. thus limiting maneuverability as my post stated.

Nothings free...If your footprint is bigger, your maneuverability is lessened when it tight places.

Soundguy



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Chad Franke

02-02-2007 06:00:48




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 Re: Round Bale moving with a Farmall M in reply to souNdguy, 02-01-2007 21:56:41  
Ok, I'll give you that, I'm 10 inches wider in back. Still a lot more manueverable than the Case 1370 with loader we also used, and will lift just as much weight, and higher. :) Only thing you loose with the F10 is access to a 3 point (if you have one) but where I live and grew up, three points are for bush hogs and that's pretty much it so it doesn't affect me.



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souNdguy

02-02-2007 11:44:55




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 Re: Round Bale moving with a Farmall M in reply to Chad Franke, 02-02-2007 06:00:48  
I imagine that tractor would pull a heft sized lift mower. ( 7' ? )

Soundguy



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