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tractormiallis

01-28-2007 15:48:34




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Posted on the paint & bodywork forum, but no responses so here goes, Bought a 10 ft disk, looking to paint it, starting with the frame, as it still is in use, so no sense in painting blades. It is rusty, however it is not flaky, bubbled or pitted. How well would priming and painting it work as it is? What kinds of paints work well as rust inhibitors? Any suggestions are useful. Thanks




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MLD

02-01-2007 05:12:59




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 Re: painting a disk in reply to tractormiallis, 01-28-2007 15:48:34  
Wire brush, clean it, spray it. Doesn't matter what paint, if it sets outside its going to rust again.



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R Wyler

01-29-2007 11:43:44




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 Re: painting a disk in reply to tractormiallis, 01-28-2007 15:48:34  
A good sanding disc in a drill would problably clean it up as easy as anything. Van Sickle has matches for Krause red if you want the codes for it that they sent me I can dig them out and tell you. Does yours have the yellow or the later creme colored rockshaft and rims? Krause dealers have the creme color and I found that Van Sickle IH Industrial yellow matches the older Krause yellow very well. I am going to be repainting my Krause chisel one of these days.

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tractormiallis

01-29-2007 12:35:07




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 Re: painting a disk in reply to R Wyler, 01-29-2007 11:43:44  
Mine is an older disk, 10 foot, model 410 i believe. Its rusty, but i believe it would be yellow, if by the rockshaft you meant the raising part that the wheels go on. The rims appear to be yellow. Could you give me the paint codes for the red? Is there a paint color of red sold in farm stores that is close to Krause color?



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R Wyler

01-29-2007 12:43:00




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 Re: painting a disk in reply to tractormiallis, 01-29-2007 12:35:07  
Yes the rockshaft is the part that the wheels are attached to and raises/lowers it. I also have a 410 with the yellow rockshaft and rims. They sent me 3 different shades of what they call 'Krause red Forstheia and Krause red/ CFC. The one that looks the best to me is the lightest one Van Sickle CML-5005-1 that is what I am going to use I believe. The next lightest is CML-5005-2 and the darkest one is CML-5015-1 and the Van Sickle IH Industrial yellow to me is a real good match for the yellow.

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johns48jdb

01-28-2007 16:25:15




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 Re: painting a disk in reply to tractormiallis, 01-28-2007 15:48:34  
if your going to keep using it i would just use a wire brush on a side grinder to knock off what rust i could, probably pressure wash it after having sprayed the grease spots first with kerosene, followed by a sprayed on coating of super clean by gastrol from wal mart at 6 bucks a gallon. use this stuff only out side!!! it will take your breath away if you breath it. if you leave super clean setting to long it will eat the paint off - about 5 minutes or less if its real hot outside. then pressure wash it. let it get real good and dry and then prime with rustoleum primer. i don't care for their paint because it will fade in a short while. i believe that i would paint it with jd classic green. you can get some jd look alike paint at tractor supply stores, but i don't think it will hold up as good as jd paint. if you have never used a spray gun fead from a paint tank you need to look into getting you one. you don't have a canister cup on your gun anymore and its real ease to get into tight spots with it. you can turn the rig upside down and you'll need to be able to do that on a disk. you need to tape the air hose and material hose coming from the paint tank together so you can control them better. set the paint tank down inside of an old tire to keep it from turning over. you can set a whole gallon of paint down in it and never have to stop painting and refilling your gun. its actually a lot lighter to handle without the cup on it. i got mine fron sears years ago and i still use it. always wear safety goggles around a wire brush on anything and the right kind of breathing mask for what ever your spraying. some of the stuff is real bad news without the proper safety equiptment. don't let others stand to close to watch without safety things on too.

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Mark N.

01-28-2007 16:14:17




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 Re: painting a disk in reply to tractormiallis, 01-28-2007 15:48:34  
A few more questions to properly answer. Are you painting this back to factory colors? What brand is it? Are you planning on spraying this on with an air sprayer or something similiar or just brushing. Regardless of pitting or flakes, if there is rust then it will need to be sanded down if you want the paint to last. The blades never get painted. You will want to use plow coat on them to keep them from rerusting after use for the season. Let me know what your intentions are and I can give you some better direction.

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tractormiallis

01-28-2007 17:15:46




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 Re: painting a disk in reply to Mark N., 01-28-2007 16:14:17  
It is a Krause disk, so will be painted a red color, as close to what I can get. I just want to paint it to make it look nice, as I have rebuit 2 axles. What is plow coat, Ive heard it mentioned here before and where can i get it?
Also, I have 2 airsprayers, electric and air. How much sanding is required, right down to bear metal? In that case, sandblasting?



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Mark N.

01-28-2007 17:51:17




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 Re: painting a disk in reply to tractormiallis, 01-28-2007 17:15:46  
Sandblasting this particular item won't be very cost effective. I've found simple sandpaper will make pretty good surfacing. If you have some areas with a little more rust then angle grinder with a wire wheel brush on it will make quick work of these areas and that may be what you want to use all over. Get several wheels of the brushes as they go pretty fast down to nothing. Make sure you wipe everything down with paint thinner before painting or laquer thinner to get any oils off or you will have fish eye in the paint and it won't look good at all. Your air sprayer should do a good job. Plow coat, This is basically a thick black oil that is brushed on the blades and dries to a dull black finish. It keeps the blades from rusting and easily comes off when the disc is put back into the ground. This can be found in any farm and fleet store. I usually find it in the paint section and not by the blades and misc. shanks where you would think it would be. Ask someone in the store as a rule of thumb. The cans are usually marked very generically. Good luck. If there are any other questions let me know.

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